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is this really a tragedy???…lol

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happycamper

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On 1/26/2023 at 11:02 AM, Slapdad said:

Data shows that since 2010, there were 10 deaths per million skier days from helicopter skiing (down from 85 per million in the 1970's), but U.S. statistics show that 117 per million die in car crashes, so I'm not sure what is objectively inaccurate about it.

that a year isn't equivalent to a day lmfao. your analysis shows that 117 per million die in car crashes ANNUALLY out of the total population of the country. you're comparing apple times banana to orange times grape here 

if you wanna rough in "deaths per million driver days" it's pretty easy. 1.34 deaths per hundred million miles travelled. average commute is ~40 miles. https://www.zippia.com/advice/average-commute-time-statistics/#:~:text=Since 1980%2C the average American,day to and from work. 

that's 1.34 deaths per 2.44 million driver days, or 5.5 deaths per million driver days.

that isn't even accounting for the fact that heli-skiiers can't get a passenger killed while drivers can lol

On 1/26/2023 at 11:02 AM, Slapdad said:

The point of helicopter skiing may be the danger for some, but its about unmarked powder for most. Heli-skiing is a highly regulated industry, but it isn't without its risks. Either way, count me among those who consider it poor taste to think it's some sort of comeuppance for being a risk-taker.  

 

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On 1/26/2023 at 7:12 AM, happycamper said:

yeah i don't really get the angle there either but given the responses it was exceptionally effective bait

that is objectively inaccurate man. jumping out of a helicopter to ski on a mountain is far, far, far more likely to kill you. a huge part of it is the danger. if someone habitually drives 130 and crashes and kills themselves i don't think "what a tragic accident" i think "that's what happens when russian roulette is your favorite pastime" 

lol

the allure of helicopter skiing has nothing to do with the "danger" it's all about long runs of untracked powder

everyone is drilled on safety procedures and tested on the use of the issued PIEPS beacons

no one "jumps" out of the helicopter; it lands, you climb out, stay low, and move off to a safe distance

the chopper takes off to pick up another group, there's usually 10-12 to a group including the guide and the helicopter is usually handling 2-3 groups of skiers at once

if an area hasn't been used for awhile, the guide might dig a snow pit to check for unstable conditions

everyone is "paired up" and the guide will set the line and all the skiers are directed to stay right or left of the line he sets

don't know for sure but my guess is that it's probably safer, per capita accidents/deaths, than skiing at a resort

 

 

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On 1/26/2023 at 10:13 AM, AztecAlien said:

That badass RSF is back looking for some cred. 

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He left 😔 

I got all the cred I need, but thanks for your concern.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 1/26/2023 at 10:34 AM, retrofade said:

Oh I do love seeing a good tantrum.

They are entertaining....

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 1/26/2023 at 9:52 AM, renoskier said:

the allure of helicopter skiing has nothing to do with the "danger" it's all about long runs of untracked powder

everyone is drilled on safety procedures and tested on the use of the issued PIEPS beacons

no one "jumps" out of the helicopter; it lands, you climb out, stay low, and move off to a safe distance

the chopper takes off to pick up another group, there's usually 10-12 to a group including the guide and the helicopter is usually handling 2-3 groups of skiers at once

if an area hasn't been used for awhile, the guide might dig a snow pit to check for unstable conditions

everyone is "paired up" and the guide will set the line and all the skiers are directed to stay right or left of the line he sets

don't know for sure but my guess is that it's probably safer, per capita accidents/deaths, than skiing at a resort

 

 

What have you done? 

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On 1/26/2023 at 11:52 AM, renoskier said:

the allure of helicopter skiing has nothing to do with the "danger" it's all about long runs of untracked powder

everyone is drilled on safety procedures and tested on the use of the issued PIEPS beacons

no one "jumps" out of the helicopter; it lands, you climb out, stay low, and move off to a safe distance

the chopper takes off to pick up another group, there's usually 10-12 to a group including the guide and the helicopter is usually handling 2-3 groups of skiers at once

if an area hasn't been used for awhile, the guide might dig a snow pit to check for unstable conditions

everyone is "paired up" and the guide will set the line and all the skiers are directed to stay right or left of the line he sets

don't know for sure but my guess is that it's probably safer, per capita accidents/deaths, than skiing at a resort

 

https://www.missionridge.com/sites/default/files/NSAA Facts About Skiing %26 Snowboarding Safety 9.1.11.pdf

it is 13 times deadlier per skiier day than just skiing as a whole

On 1/26/2023 at 11:52 AM, RSF said:

I got all the cred I need, but thanks for your concern.

come on bro. you gotta hit him with "bro you can call me a corellian banker cause i got cred to spare" or something

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On 1/26/2023 at 10:58 AM, happycamper said:

 

come on bro. you gotta hit him with "bro you can call me a corellian banker cause i got cred to spare" or something

It's like boxing - lead with the jab to set up the big shots.  It's strategery.

 

Besides...I think AA suffers from sundowning, so you gotta save the best ones for nighttime.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 1/26/2023 at 8:52 AM, renoskier said:

the allure of helicopter skiing has nothing to do with the "danger" it's all about long runs of untracked powder

everyone is drilled on safety procedures and tested on the use of the issued PIEPS beacons

no one "jumps" out of the helicopter; it lands, you climb out, stay low, and move off to a safe distance

the chopper takes off to pick up another group, there's usually 10-12 to a group including the guide and the helicopter is usually handling 2-3 groups of skiers at once

if an area hasn't been used for awhile, the guide might dig a snow pit to check for unstable conditions

everyone is "paired up" and the guide will set the line and all the skiers are directed to stay right or left of the line he sets

don't know for sure but my guess is that it's probably safer, per capita accidents/deaths, than skiing at a resort

 

 

Sounds cool if you can afford it, honestly.  Not my bag, but I can see the allure.  Personally wouldn't mind getting dropped off deep in Appalachia or the Northwoods for a few days if I knew someone had my location and I had a beacon.

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On 1/26/2023 at 10:02 AM, RSF said:

It's like boxing - lead with the jab to set up the big shots.  It's strategery.

 

Besides...I think AA suffers from sundowning, so you gotta save the best ones for nighttime.

This explains a lot. Day and night, this is what you live for. You're such a badass. 

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