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  1. If he took seriously what he says the entire Pac 12 would follow the Big Ten with both a prohibition on FCS scheduling and a mandatory out of The half measure of getting more out of conference 'tenth' games is that nearly every Pac 12 teams does that ready and the ones that don't would have preferred to have such a game on their schedule. Both Washington State and Oregon State have a hard time getting home and home agreements so in certain years they have to decide whether to play only five home games and play a power five opponent or play six home games and have BYU/Boise State/Fresno State/San Diego State as a road opponent - if they can even get any of those schools to schedule them given their other options. I'm pretty sure Wazzou is the wooer and the Broncos are the wooee when it comes to scheduling - same for the appositely named Beavers.
  2. Theoretically the former Prime Ticket RSNs could use Aztec games and Fresno State games for their broadcasts. AT&T Sportsnet has Golden Knights games, so if Nevada and UNLV both had a deal with AT&T Sportnet there could be a Nevada specific RSN anchored by hockey and bookended with MW men's basketball. Also, if Sinclair put more MW games over the air as a result of owning a significant portion of Stadium and now these RSNs it is possible that the east coast and midwest time zones would see a ton of MW games they currently don't see. Although ESPN is overall more highly rated throughout the US, in particular regions the sports network carrying the local pro teams is considered a strong 2 if not 1B as a channel to watch games by most sports fans when comparing that to ESPN. In many places, the cable subscribers pay about the same for the RSN than they do for ESPN. MW broadcasts following local games could attract eyeballs and the on the field competition in the MW is as good as most FBS games and almost always watchable. Honestly, it's probably more likely now than it was before that ESPN/Disney, At&T, CBS, Fox and Sinclair all pursue the Mountain West. Although the AAC might have slightly more overall inherent value, the conference never hit the open market and the possibility of Sinclair making a deal with the AAC (which could have totally been a THING) isn't happening. While I don't think that Sinclair will succeed in pushing a heavy right wing agenda, I do think their strategy is influenced by their politics just like Fox is. I bet Sinclair and Fox both want more media properties in areas they consider 'red' and certainly Idaho, Utah and Wyoming are usually characterized that way when reducing people's perspectives to one metaphorical color. The timing of Sinclair getting more serious about sports is good for the MW, but I have to think that the AAC could have really benefited a lot from this because almost all the big local RSNs in AAC cities will soon be owned by Sinclair.
  3. The only mystery was whether it would be 20 or 22. In order for all twelve teams to play home and home we would need to play 22 games rather than just 20. The WCC and MW aren't threatened by a Pac 12 round robin because schools still need to play nine or seven and a preseason tournament out of conference to complete their regular season games. I do think we will play fewer big out of conference games during the season, although preseason tournaments will continue to include opponents from east of the Mississippi river. I do think that recent dip in esteem by the national media has something to do with why the presidents agreed to do this because it is a way to try to improve national perception. It also provides a convenient excuse to avoid scheduling east coast and midwest teams in games we invariably lose. Personally, I'm more in favor of the Pac 12 not scheduling FCS teams than playing an opponent from an autonomous conference every year. UCLA, USC and Notre Dame are the only three schools in FBS to never schedule FCS opponents and I would like the Pac 12 to adopt that as a requirement for every team.. The Mountain West would benefit if the Pac 12 didn't permit FCS games on the schedule because the MW would schedule more Pac opponents and not have to travel as much to the east coast for out of conference games with big pay days. I agree about earlier points that the revenue generated from conference games is more lucrative than out of conference games as well. Owning our own conference network creates an incentive to maximize the number of conference games played in whatever sport. We also need programming in December so going to 20 conference games means we have conference play almost immediately after football season ends.
  4. He is talking about the Hawaii Bowl. Please note if the matchup is NOT against BYU it is against the MOUNTAIN WEST (porbably Hawaii) and Aresco assiduously avoided mentioning that.
  5. A stadium of lesser architectural distinction than Canvas Stadium in a state where marijuana isn't legal. Those renderings are extremely unimpressive, especially considering we all just saw years of Colorado State renderings of much higher quality architecture. Both the new San Diego State and Aloha Stadiums will be of architectural significance - especially the new Aloha Stadium.
  6. ALOHA STADIUM UPDATE https://www.khon2.com/news/local-news/stadium-authority-announces-plans-for-new-stadium-location/1884850834 On March 29, 2019 it was announced that Aloha Stadium will be rebuilt at the current Halawa site. Check the link for details about how still undetermined nearly everything else is because every single politician in Hawaii is involved. For the purposes of this poll, presume that there are brand new hotel facilities within walking distance of Aloha stadium that are not available now. The accommodations should be nice (what isn't in Hawaii at this point?) and easily the best of the AAC's "top three" annual bowl games. I'm sure Birmingham has perfectly fine hotels, but new Aloha stadium adjacent hotels in an entertainment district will FAR exceed whatever experience that could be had in Birmingham or in Annapolis. Come to think of it - Annapolis probably has better hotel accommodations than Birmingham does either.
  7. There is a pretty attenuated connection between eyeballs to dollars. Eyeballs are body parts but it is the individual attached to a particular set of eyeballs is what the advertisers pay media companies to get in front of them for. Aside from the Northeast corridor where Uconn and Temple are located and the city of Houston itself, the areas where AAC teams are located have incredibly low average incomes that are often below US median income by more than $10,000. Below is a map by county from the US Census as of 2012 that demonstrates how few individuals who watch AAC games have desirable demographics. Certainly everyone realizes that San Diego and San Jose have high average incomes, but even Boise is more prosperous than nearly every single AAC school county on an average income basis. In particular, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado look more like coastal regions of the United States (Northern Nevada is getting there too) than any other part of the not coastal adjacent United States and that is especially true for where AAC schools are located. Yes, the overall viewership is lower in the West but the kinds of viewers that advertisers seek are more commonly located along the Pacific Coast, Northeast Corridor or in the Mountain West. A pure eyeballs only value overlooks that who watches is who advertisers pay media companies for and where those people are located are far more in the Mountain West conference region than the American Athletic conference outside the Northeast Corridor.
  8. It happened https://csnbbs.com/thread-875231.html Note the AAC Forum OP calls the article a 'MW article' despite being written by SD UT
  9. Aside from Gonzaga @ St Mary's, @ BYU , vs St. Mary's, vs BYU and then BYU vs St. Mary's - BYU @ St. Mary's I can't see ESPN featuring more than a couple additional matchups per year on ESPN2 or better each year. Certainly the WCC is likely to be preferred to the Big WEst for ESPNU content. Personally I think the MW fits perfectly as the ESPN2 game when there is a Pac12 game on ESPN in either football or men's basketball. The upcoming contract time period is post-2020 so your comparison is not apples to apples. I am curious what portion of the new WCC deal you confirmed includes ESPN+ content - I don't believe that those specifics are out.
  10. You forgot that WITHOUT Texas or Oklahomas, the Eight Dwarves of the Big 12 got $40 million more from ESPN recently for ESPN+ exclusivity. http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/26487056/big-12-expands-content-agreement-espn The bottom 4/5th of the Big 12 is worth $40 million and some of that is for ESPN+. In comparison to Big 12 rights, Mountain division rights without Boise State are like West division rights without Hawaii as compared to the Pac 12; the on the field competition is of comparable quality to two-thirds of Pac 12 games played during any given season. AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain currently pays for the rights to a high single digit number of Mountain division home games annually so there is an actual value for those rights now and AT&T is an ESPN competitor. While Boise is a different set of rights, the Mountain West negotiates those rights subject to Boise State approval at the same time as the rest of the conference rights (Hawaii too) i.e. right now. That's likely why this whole sage doesn't play out until the summer. Only some Pac 12 basketball games are on ESPN but since nearly all the good ones are so on ESPN understand the confusion. ESPN gets 46 games a year, Fox gets 22 and the remainder are on Pac 12 network. https://www.bruinsnation.com/2011/5/4/2153940/breaking-down-the-pac-12s-new-tv-deal-with-espn-fox-pac-12-network There are usually only six games of significance in any given West Coast Conference men's basketball season so ESPN needs more content. The Mountain West has many more competitive games of significance than the WCC does in nearly every year of conference play. Most metrics show the Mountain West and WCC at nearly the level of the Pac 12 over the past decade in men's basketball with the Big West far behind at the level of the Big Sky. I think ESPN+ is more of a wildcard with respect to BYU football renewal with ESPN because BYUTV is important to the LDS Church than ESPN+ is a wildcard with respect to whether ESPN/Disney wants to sign the MW to a new deal.
  11. The article in the SD Union Tribune is very up front about being unsure anything won't happen but a deal equivalent to the Pac 12. The idea that Boise state is the problem is clearly not the topic of the article and any serious consideration of Boise's deal must also include Hawaii's special deal as well because that is usually worth more than Boise's $1.8 million depending on PPV buys. I don't agree that the American is the only point of comparison to ascertain the MW's TV value. In terms of the time slots where the MW can provide national programming (especially in Window 4 on Saturdays), the Pac 12 and BYU are the only alternatives and they both charge MORE per broadcast. Ratings for BYU are not appreciably better than the MW, and BYU's games versus MW teams earned better ratings than most of BYU's broadcasts on ESPN. BYU's TV contract value is estimated to be between $4 and $6 million per year. The Pac 12's ESPN contract is for significantly more than that. Also, the MW can provide 40 games for ESPN2 and ESPNU just like the AAC does. The MW could provide 26 Window 4 games on ESPN2 and ESPNU throughout the season (if BYU doesn't renew) and 14 on either Friday evening or Saturday at other times of day to provide 40 games just like the AAC's current deal. If the MW provides the same amount of games to ESPN for linear broadcast the AAC does at a price equal to or below what the Pac 12 and BYU provide, it isn't unreasonable to see a total contract value comparable to the AAC's value if the MW went ESPN exclusive.
  12. This is great news! San Jose State facilities improvements are WAY over due and very needed. Also, $40 million dollars has been raised (!)
  13. The first take away I have is that ESPN must have interest in the Mountain West rights given the schools covered by this new agreement exclude Texas and Oklahoma home games. In 2020, the first 'phase' of schools become available through ESPN+: Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State and Oklahoma State. In 2021, the second phase of Texas Tech, Texas Christian, Iowa State and West Virginia join. Most of those schools, apart from TCU, play in media markets more similar to MW schools than most other autonomous FBS team media markets. My second takeaway is that BYU's desire to broadcast on BYU TV may be a bigger issue in renewing that TV contract than I thought. ESPN appears to care a great deal about ESPN+ rights. Perhaps the deal can be split between cable/OTA and streaming but that would diminish the BYU value somewhat to it's media partner. If BYU is difficult about renewing with ESPN+, Disney will have a reason simply to replace all it's current BYU content with. CBS, Fox and NBC are all likely to be more agreeable to the kind of terms BYU currently has about broadcasting football on BYU TV than ESPN is after launching ESPN+. This deal is estimated at ~$22 million annually for the conference and is combined with rights to the Big 12 championship game so it's difficult to get an idea of precisely what the 'tier 3' rights of the respective universities are worth. The easiest assumption is that half of that value is the conference game so the other half would be ~$11 million annually for ESPN+ rights to the eight junior members of the Big 12 conference. I don't think that value is enough for the Pac 12 to consider abandoning our own network, but overall it shows that this year is an up year for the rights to college sports media properties so the MW and BYU should both benefit financially when their deals are eventually announced.
  14. My understanding is that the CA NOW settlement was only made because CSU didn't comply with the federal requirement and California NOW had to sue rather than the board of trustees doing their duty and assuring that CSU administration complied with Title IX . I agree that it's inexplicable that UCSB alumni haven't brought back football, at least at the FCS level, yet. My understanding is that UCSB has one of the larger endowments of the UC Campuses, although perhaps UC Irvine and UCSD are both ahead of them.
  15. The track at San Diego State is on top of a parking structure https://arc.sdsu.edu/track It appears to be a nice facility. In general where SJSU can duplicate what SDSU has already done then by all means - get 'er done. Apparently the WTA event is a huge success and the money from that event is what will likely fund a portion of the parking structure's construction costs. Improving parking within a certain proximity to the event may be a condition of the WTA contract. Personally I would prefer they just restored the track from it's present run down condition and built the parking structure where the old ice rink is. That Ice rink is a HUGE eyesore and it's owned by the city, not SJSU.
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