Headbutt

Take this for what it’s worth, but I spoke to a guy who claims to have close ties to NDSU admin. Including some family association. According to him, NDSU is very comfortable owning the FCS, and the stated position from the top of the ladder is that they have zero interest in jumping through the hoops to go FBS. The inability to expand the Fargodome without tearing it down and starting from scratch is among the biggest of those hoops. “That’s not the only hurdle though” according to him. ACCORDING TO HIM. He and I will have the opportunity to speak more at another time, but he was pretty adamant. Just what I’m told.

How can you say that he's wrong on both counts, and then verify count #1? SDSU stated that they could not afford the double exit fee, and Gloria said "too bad". That part is documented.

I see it the same way. Not a proponent of it at all, but I do think that's how it would go down if it went down. None of us are really so attractive that the MWC can't live without us.

Like 20 years of Hair, I think we know his M.O. I guarantee that he would have thrown the carrot and forgot the stick. May not make any difference, but yeah...she's an upgrade.

I think Gloria's done all she can. Extended a carrot with a FB scheduling alliance and adding WSU as an affiliate member for some sports, then adding the stick of being able to bill the Pac for some millions if they tamper with the MWC membership. Yeah, she's dealing with some pretty disingenuous characters that are slowing things down, but there's not much more she can do.

In the long run, I think we need both. There is no predicting where all of this chaos is going to be in 5-10 years. Strength in numbers is a pretty good answer right now IMO. I'm a fan of small conferences (9 in FB is perfect IMO), but that's just not a realistic approach right now. Whatever we put together in the next couple of years will likely see attrition shortly after. I think that's the trend.

Thank God! That name sucks.

So it’s true?!?!!! Damn!

You'll see plenty of those Saturday games moved to Friday, or streaming. TV still has the right to move things around. I know they've got a 12 day window on kickoff times for many of them, not sure if the same window applies to game day. We have to wait until the Big 10 etc. get there stuff picked.

Hawaii has been "subsidizing" travel costs, and I'll need a link before I believe that SDSU hasn't been a beneficiary of that along with everyone else.

I agree. There really needs to be traction on this issue by winter so that plans are finalized prior to the '25 season, just for media negotiation purposes. The Pac 2 is waiting and watching the ACC action though.

The MWC already decided that. ALL OF US. Hence the negotiated penalty to the Pac for taking less than 12 schools.

Thanks for all that info. I appreciate it. No, my post wasn't directed at you @818SUDSFan mentioned he didn't understand what I had against OSU/WSU. Was just clearing the air.

Sounds right. But they do lose their ass if they straight up just join the MWC.

OSU and WSU have to keep the name. It's of marginal value to G5 teams that join them, but it is a big part of their budget for the next 5-10 years. They lose a lot of their inheritance if they shut down the "Pac 12".