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There will also likely be beer at the concert. And maybe a snack or two. Happy thoughts are good thoughts!

A slightly less controversial strategy may be for telcos and other companies to start sharing people's movements etc. with government agencies so that spreaders' range of potential exposure can be understood and shared with affected people. Maybe that's already being done, have any of you heard anything about this?

Whew! That's a huge load off my mind right now.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-response-specialre/italy-and-south-korea-virus-outbreaks-reveal-disparity-in-deaths-and-tactics-idUSKBN20Z27P

Yes, but they have Brexited on paper only at this point. Freedom of movement is still in effect, and will be until January 2021.

This makes zero sense to me. Maybe we just need more details, but I don't see what a selective suspension of flight from Europe will do other than tailspinning the economy further. And why is the UK exempt? It has close to 500 known cases, so it'll probably be at a similar level as many other European countries soon. And how are Americans exempt when the planes don't fly? Really scratching my head about this move...

Well, that's the problem, right? No government wants to be seen as taking extreme measures prematurely, so everybody waits until the shit has hit the fan. We're seeing this pattern all over the globe. Edit: I stand corrected: Three Latin American countries just closed schools despite low known case numbers. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-panama/latin-american-countries-order-school-closures-over-coronavirus-fears-idUSKBN20Y3FA?il=0

China and India, yes. I think I read that 80% of our antibiotics come from China (and not just generics).

Interesting. What's odd, though, is that her account conflicts with everything we've read so far about the incubation period. She says lots of people were sick only three days after the party.

Woah, woah, woah, I thought you said don't panic? There is ZERO proof cleaning the house offers any protection from the virus. My house will remain a mess until Mike Pence says otherwise.

I wish people panicked a bit more about heart disease...

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/566632/winston-churchill-doctors-note-prohibition

What's interesting is that Germany has now over 800 confirmed cases but not a single recorded death. One possible explanation is that Germany tests and quarantines like a mother+++++er. For instance, an entire group of 69 high school students returning from a trip to northern Italy have been quarantined and are being tested. In other words, a lot more asymptomatic people are tested than in most other countries. This seems to support the theory that the disease is more widespread and more benign than previous evidence (mainly from China) suggests.

No one denies that a lot of people are way overreacting. But people just look for excuses to do dumb shit because that's what people do. The very same subset of the population would probably be doing something different that's really dumb right now if it weren't for the outbreak.

I particularly like "Swine 2010." You know, the outbreak the rest of the world calls "Pandemic H1N1/09 virus." But 2009 wasn't an election year, so clearly they must have gotten that wrong.

None, but I don't have many friends or family in Wuhan... As usual, the people screaming "OMG, STOP PANICKING!!!" are way louder than the people actually panicking. It's like being on mushrooms.

Every non-election year ALSO had a disease! The conspiracy goes even deeper...

But China is Australia's most important trade partner. Australian business travelers must go to Wuhan all the time.

https://www.businessinsider.com/washington-state-buys-motel-for-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-3 https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/king-county-buy-kent-motel-house-covid-19-patients/RKPEH5B42JDQBNTNIMWD7SM3HE/

Who doesn't? Ahem! I wonder if there's a fight on TV tonight?

That's exactly how I feel about Vegas, only the virus isn't Corona...

A former coworker of mine is Mormon. When I first met him, he was based out of Arizona and showed up to every meeting looking like his mom had just starched his shirts. Wholesome af. Then he moved to Portland for a different job, and now he considers everything more center than Mother Jones Republican propaganda. Not sure how his parents are taking it, but Thanksgiving must be fun...

Things seem to continue to get better in China: And no China news without a nice spoonful of "Wtf, is this real life or dystopian sci-fi?" https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/03/world/coronavirus-news.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Clearly California's fault!

Right, but I live in Portland, and I'm seeing the same scene about 2-3 times a year (usually it's E. coli or snow related). Plus, once you have the water, shouldn't you have it for a while? I store water myself, but I have a pretty good system going on. I need reverse osmosis water for my saltwater aquarium water changes. So what I do is keep a whole bunch of those 5 gallon water jugs filled. In an emergency situation, those can be used as water supply. Doesn't taste great but perfectly drinkable.