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  1. 29 minutes ago, THEUniversityofNevada said:

    I like Bernie. Too far left for my taste, but I understand the appeal. I'll vote for whomever isn't named Trump.

    I fear that Bernie supporters are underestimating what's about to come his way if he's the candidate in a nationwide general election for the highest office in the land. None of his Democrat competitors have ever come after him like Donald Trump and the Right Wing Media machine would come after him were he the nominee.

    Maybe you're right that the "SOCIALIST" tag is as worn out as the "RACIST" tag. I mean, no matter who the democrats nominate, the Right will label him a "socialist". Maybe 2016 was an anti-establishment change election that Trump timed right and Bernie will energize enough young voters to carry the day. 

    The data over the last 3 years of non-presidential elections has had moderate democrats who've appealed to college educated conservatives disgusted by Trump winning a lot. 

    My friend, they said Hillary ran a child porn ring and murdered people.

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  2. cheese and rice, people. Pete "won" by a tenth of a percentage point and lost the popular vote and is going to get, pardon the expression, butt-raped in New Hampshire, probably Nevada and almost certainly in SC.  Long way to go for everybody.


  3. 44 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

    Wait....Bernie is winning the popular vote but not the delegate count?  How could the Democrats use such a diabolical scheme to nominate a candidate?

    They modeled their scheme after the same nationwide scheme that elected the last several Republican presidents.


  4. 43 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

    McCain wasn’t any better than Trump as a person. The difference is McCain was a politician and knew how to hide it. In fact, there are a lot of politicians that are worse. Trump not having a squeaky clean BS facade to hide his warts is the difference. He’s made of clear glass, you can see everything. McCain pimped himself as a maverick, but that’s just a euphemism for pulling stunts just to get attention and be a pain in the ass. He was just as much of an attention whore Trump is, just in a different way he was comfortable with. 

    I think the best example of his selfish mean spiritedness and his desire to hold extreme grudges with no concern of hurting someone was how he treated Sarah Palin with his planned funeral service where 100’s where invited. First of all, Sarah Palin has never said a bad word about him, she’s always mentioned how much she respects him, likes him, considers him a true friend, always sticks up for him, and how much she appreciated him choosing her as his VP.  She was as loyal as a friend you could ever hope for. 

    But she got the McCain death penalty because she embarrassed him. Doesn’t matter that it wasn’t on purpose. She moved on and continued to be who she always had been with her brand of politics. No, it wasn’t John McCain’s fault for making a bad calculation picking her, it was her fault for being herself and moving on. He knew who he was getting and never truly took responsibility for his mistake only to blame her. He’s the one that made her a Star!! Doesn’t matter, you don’t fvcking embarrass John McCain. 

    So what did he do? He directed his staff to contact her after he passed away and tell her that she wasn’t invited to his funeral service and that if she did attend she would immediately be removed. In an interview she described being told that and she said it was like getting punched in the gut, and it literally made her ill for a number of days. Psychologically, that’s one of the meanest things you could ever do to a person. She couldn’t speak to him or try to reconcile it because he was gone. It was a ‘forever’ parting shot. It shouldn’t matter if you like her or not for her politics. You don’t do that to human beings. 


    Never said the guy was perfect or didn't play politics, but you can't deny he was gracious in defeat and instead of saying the election was rigged or making up a bunch of lies he put gave a speech to start healing the wounds of the election and to get people to move the country forward where it could. In that moment he was trying to be part of the solution and not the problem. 

  5. 1 hour ago, soupslam1 said:

    After watching the Kavanaugh episode it was the straw that broke the camels back. I have never seen dirtier politics than that. I detest the Democrats. They will stop at nothing to gain power. My beliefs have little in common with what the Dems offer and I’m through thinking you can ever compromise with them. They are snakes in the grass.

    You can go ahead and say what about Trump. Yeah he’s a pompous asshole but I’ll take the pompous asshole anytime over what the Democrat party has become. 

    That's true. Trump never dragged anyone's name through the mud for politics.


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  6. 3 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

    How are you defining progressive? Xenophon stood besides the ruins of Nineveh in wonderment that a lost civilization was capable of building such a place, and he’d seen a lot of the known world by that time. But nobody would look at the Assyrians as a beacon of progressive tolerance and understanding.

    black alonzo mourning GIF

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  7. 3 minutes ago, bornontheblue said:

    Yes the GOP has been nasty as hell at times. What I had a problem with was McCain and Romney piously trying to not get their knuckles bloody when the other side was abusing them for political gain. They made a political mistake of trying to appear statesmanlike , and instead they just looked like fools. 

    Looking back, they look like adults and team leaders. 

    They realized that other Americans weren't the enemy.

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  8. 2 hours ago, BYUcougfan said:

    We will have to agree to disagree.  I think Fannie and Freddie created artificial demand for housing that drove up prices.  When that artificial demand was removed, the values crashed.

    I'm not arguing that government policies didn't create a titanic bubble. I'm just telling you there is no normal, regular house price. There are always governmental policies and myriad other variables that affect pricing.  The prices of houses are always affected by interest rates, the availability of loans, the type of loans available, etc.

  9. 7 hours ago, BYUcougfan said:

    I am not sure you read the whole thread.  Fannie and Freddie were buying up subprime mortgages originated by the banks.  Those loans never would have been originated had Fannie and Freddie not bought them.  This artificially drove up the prices of homes on the low end, but it eventually filtered up through the entire housing market, because it had to.  That meant there were tons of loans on the balance sheets of home lenders with seemingly credit worth borrowers where the asset securing the loan (the home) was artificially over valued.

    So what were the houses supposed to be worth at that time?

    They weren't overvalued is my point. Houses were worth what was being paid. You're right in that financing options and the economic environment play roles in the prices of things but they always do. Every day. There's no standard baseline where we know what something should "really" cost irrespective of all market forces and you can't pick and choose what market forces you deem to be real or artificial. 

  10. I can't even believe this is how it used to be and it really wasn't that long ago. McCain's words here maybe tell more about Trump's fitness for office than all the disgusting things that have actually come out of Trump's own mouth.


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  11. I can't even believe this is how it used to be and it really wasn't that long ago. McCain's words here maybe tell more about Trump's fitness for office than all the disgusting things that have actually come out of Trump's own mouth.


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  12. On 1/3/2020 at 12:06 AM, soupslam1 said:

    Anyone that has ever played basketball doesn’t like playing with a slick ball and narrow grooves. It messes with your grip if you have small hands. Leave it to Nike to not understand that. 

    The story got buried because of the Pelosi and Rush stuff but last night Trump said the ball was a leftist plot. Crazy stuff...


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