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They better not screw up the Mueller movie.  It has the potential to be an all-timer.

he scurred.

3 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said:

I think this is where his rhetoric gets much more dangerous and heated even than the racist crap he says (and yes, I think he says racist crap). This kind of issue is verging on a kind of crisis that can really, really be a problem, and his unwillingness to recognize it and act accordingly has always been the most concerning thing about him. If there is a legit crisis, where there is possibility for actual fracturing of the populace over unwillingness to accept an institution or process, that's how real bad stuff happens.

Trump's whole thing on how important it was to push Islamic terrorism over and over always annoyed me especially, not because I think that radical Islamism isn't a real thing but because always pushing that connection encourages people who already don't like middle eastern people to like them less and to make the connection when there isn't one. I thought Bush right after 9/11  going to mosques and reminding people that Islam itself isn't what's causing terrorism was a responsible thing to do at the time because the night of 9/11 and subsequent nights I remember how disconcerting it was to be on the streets of downtown Modesto watching trucks full of 16-25-year-old white dudes flying flags out the back, honking and roaming around, calling on everyone else around to "Show some support!" and doing so in a very unhinged, hostile and aggressive way. Then I read within the next week multiple instances of violence against Sikh men because Valley bros are too damned stupid to even be racist correctly. And I think of how much different or worse that would have been if Trump was the president. Or if he was president when the 2000 election happened (speaking of Florida).

So, I do worry about these things. 

On Bill Maher last week there was a reporter from Axios. He was talking about how the president traditionally tries to turn down the heat, calm things down.  He asked Trump about why he does the opposite and Trump basically said because that's what his people want. They love it.

10 hours ago, #1Stunner said:

Identity Politics? 

See, I think the only reason Trump got elected was jobs. 

Had very little to do with race politics.  Or Obamacare. 

Basically, a bunch of people in the Midwest (Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,... also add in West Virginia ) are unemployed because of years of Nafta and China emerging.  These folks were traditionally union Democrats, with manufacturing jobs and mining jobs. They switched to Trump because they weren't finding any jobs. Hillary completely ignored them during the election.  Obama said: "Your jobs aren't coming back...go back to a community college".   Trump told them he'd get their jobs back. 

Trump only won because he turned a few States.  Had nothing to do with race (Hillary is white like Trump). 

I agree with everything you said after "identity politics" however identity politics are at the heart of everything both sides do.  The left is just more obvious about it.

10 hours ago, Broncomare said:

One is preferable than 13.

I think one idea that holds us back on this discussion is that we discard solutions and ideas because they don't offer a complete solution.  Or that if 1 guy gets killed with a rock it's the same as the ability to kill 13 or 58 people with a gun.

No law is 100% effective yet we seem to want to hold gun control discussions to that standard. It's a false choice.  I'm not saying their aren't other complicating factors with legislating gun control solutions, I'm just saying a reduction in these acts is better than what we have now, and we should not hesitate to act because every murder or mass shooting could not be prevented. 

1 hour ago, pokebball said:

The touch argument is kinda stupid.  He didn't revoked because of the touch.  He got revoked because he became Sean Hannity.

Yes huh. 

I believe Nevada is the weirdest state.

Atomic bombs, aliens, dead pimps that win elections, mafia, no last call, LDS, creepy ass little towns and last but not least, Las Vegas.

My dudes, the effing government put out a doctored video to support the removal of a journalist. This is not America being great. 

Is your $20 a month, deficit exploding tax break in a time of economic growth really worth it? 

2 hours ago, IanforHeisman said:

And now the White House gets caught putting out an edited video of the incident.  

 

 

8 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

She grabbed at the microphone as per her job's duties. If there was contact, it lacked the requisite intent. Whereas you can't say the same about Acosta's response. 

Her job duties are to aggressively snatch the mic away from stubborn reporters? lol.

2 hours ago, Rebelbacker said:

Pushing boundaries is fine. What Acosta does is over the top because he’s looking to get that reaction. He’s provoking to try and cause an incident. He does it with Sanders all the time. 

What should he ask her?  What should he ask Trump?  Somebody needs to call them out on their constant lying.

5 minutes ago, Rebelbacker said:

On a serious note no I don’t think it’s good. It’s one thing to disagree with a hostile press corps. Republicans have dealt with that forever.  It’s another thing that it escalated like it has. I blame both Trump and the media. 

Trumps appeal to some is that he is a fighter. But he is the president and has the bully pulpit. He should act more presidential. I don’t like everything he says and I think at times he is embarrassing. 

The media has a role too. Guys like Acosta push boundaries every day then whine when there are consequences. They are looking to create stories not report on them. They want to create chaos because people like to watch car crashes. Add in the bias many of them show and it no wonder it is a shit show. 

This is literally what good journalism is. Pushing boundaries.  Even being "rude" at times. 

4 minutes ago, Rebelbacker said:

Hahaha! 

By tomorrow you’ll have researched multiple angles and gone slo mo to try and justify something this small. This will be your Zapruder film. Maybe 2 years from now someone behind the grassy knoll actually touched her arm. 

2 minutes ago, Cheek Patch said:

This thread is awesome! I need to lurk in the non sports forum more often

No you don't.  It's super unhealthy in here. Save yourself while you still can.

You can't reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

Acosta was a dick in that he just kept going, but his reaction to that young lady grabbing something from him in an aggressive manner was human and non-violent. It would have been nice if we would have just pulled away but she was the aggressor.

7 minutes ago, mugtang said:

 

She never grabbed him.  She grabbed the microphone.   I just posted the video as Ian asked if there was a video and I provided it. As for what he should apologize for when she grabs the microphone (because he refused to give it up) his left hand goes down onto her arm as if to prevent her from taking it.  He should’ve given up the microphone when she asked for it and he refused it. It’s her job to pass the microphone into the next reporter but he prevented her from doing her job.  

Let me propose something here.  If this was any other administration would the headline be what the MSNBC tweet says or would it be something along the lines of “Pushy reporter refuses to give up microphone to young woman working in the White House.”  

She touched him though. Her hand went on his. 

Both were somewhat aggressive.

@Rebelbacker You're trying to deflect and make it about posters on a message board.  Anyone's selective outrage or hypocrisy doesn't make Trump or Sarah Sanders right about anything. One employs this tactic when they can't defend what they want with facts or reason. 

4 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said:

Sandoval would make a solid Univ president - either institution would be well served with him at the helm 

But we need him more, lol. 

41 minutes ago, Lester_in_reno said:

1. he has common sense.

2. ......he is his own man.

3.  He is not a douchebag "My party" guy.

4. He is media ready. he "looks the part"..... (sadly that's  important)

 

Bishop Manogue.

I've always said Sandoval looks like a president and gets along well with both sides. He could do it.

I also think Hillary Schieve could be Governor.

14 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said:

Surprising how Washoe County voters kicked laxalt & Heller to the curb - I am always giving northern based candidates an edge in Washoe County due to the distates for anything Clark County, but maybe the changing demographics are diluting the old north vs south feelings that exists in longer Washoe residents. 

Could be that they also knew Adam Laxalt was more tied to northern Virginia than northern Nevada and he'd be another disaster like Jim Gibbons was until Sandoval kicked him out in a GOP primary 

Great turnout statewide also...........record setting for midterms 

Reno is becoming a lot less "northern nevada" as their population grows and they suck in a younger, somewhat techier crowd. 

I've been saying this for a while but I'll say it again.  R's have a problem in statewide races moving forward as Washoe and Reno grows and gets younger and even a little more hip. Cities just don't vote red and the rest of the state is so sparse.   Going to be real tough sledding for non-centrist R's moving forward.

She mad...lol.

Oh, Danny.  As a young Runnin' Rebel fan, I got your autograph at a LV Stars baseball game on a LA Dodgers seat cushion and you became my favorite Rebel for a year or so. I just feel sorry for you at this point.

You know what I don't get, though. I live about a mile from the Tarks and I don't vote in his district. Our kids play in the same little league.  See Amy and Danny all the time at the grocery store.  What's up with that?  Any who-skee watch this video.  The woe is me factor is off the charts.

https://news3lv.com/politics/watch-amy-tarkanian-gives-emotionally-charged-speech-after-husbands-loss

It's a PC world.

Not interested in making life more difficult with a mac.

7 minutes ago, mugtang said:

You’re avatar... Why?!