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  1. On 10/29/2022 at 9:04 AM, thelawlorfaithful said:

    It’s not a lot of new ground for those familiar with the theory. But damn, the US Senate is pointing the finger. It could still be a bat but a lot of people aren’t buying it.

    https://www.help.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/report_an_analysis_of_the_origins_of_covid-19_102722.pdf

    The November 12, 2019 report suggested a biosafety problem had occurred at the WIV sometime before November 2019:
    Owing to [the fact] that the subject of research at the P4 lab is highly pathogenic microorganisms, inside the laboratory, once you have opened the stored test tubes, it is just as if having opened Pandora’s Box. These viruses come without a shadow and leave without a trace. Although [we have] various preventive and protective measures, it is nevertheless necessary for lab personnel to operate very cautiously to avoid operational errors that give rise to dangers. Every time this has happened, the members of the Zhengdian Lab [BSL4] Party Branch have always run to the frontline, and they have taken real action to mobilize and motivate other research personnel. (emphasis added)177 

    “Every time this has happened”

    Millions dead. Millions who couldn’t attend their loved ones funerals. Millions of children years behind. China is ASSHOE!

    I wonder sometimes if our gubmint knew all along it was a lab deal, but the juice from the consequences and subsequent pressures with acknowledging that weren't worth the squeeze.

  2. 3 hours ago, smltwnrckr said:

    That's how these things work, though. Conditions are set up so that when a major event such as this takes place, there are rippling effects. I know there have been increasing anxiety levels and mental health issues among teens leading into this, but let's not pretend that shutting down the lives and fundamentally altering the experience of a great deal of youth across the country isn't clearly the biggest part of this story right now. Even the CRT and anti-LGBTQ movements in schools like those in Idaho are intimately connected to COVID, and to the national response. 

    The entire country lost its shit for 2 - plus years. That is going to impact youth mental health, even in places where those kids' daily lives haven't been turned upside down. And I would venture to guess more than half the population of young people in America saw at least a year or more of major impacts on their lives or routines. 

    No need to keep this discussion solely pediatric. I'd say the majority of adults are not doing as well mentally than they were before the pandemic began. 

  3. On 2/11/2022 at 1:01 PM, crixus said:

    I received the free Covid-19 at home tests today and both my wife and I tested negative. The test was easy and only took 15 minutes. The package came with four tests in it, so we'll repeat the process in another month or so. The tests have a use by date of July 12th, 2022.

    Were you sick?

  4. On 2/1/2022 at 10:26 PM, TheSanDiegan said:

    You mean, aside from the date, of course. 

    Biblical scholars all agree Christ was born somewhere between May and October IIRC - nowhere near December, let alone standing right smack on the nut sack of the winter solstice just as Christmas does each year.

    Other common traditions we all celebrate over Christmas- namely the tree and gifts - are non-Christian traditions as well. I mean, Yule is even directly mentioned in multiple classic Christmas songs.

    But Christmas is by no means alone. Look at Easter, ffs. Even the name is a direct derivative of the paleopagan rite for celebrating the spring equinox, during which they honored the goddess of spring, Eastre. Know how they marked this celebration in the British Isles? By eating a hare pie. Which answers the question of where the association with the Easter Bunny comes from.

    I'm not pagan or christian but I do eat hair pie.

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  5. On 2/1/2022 at 9:17 AM, grandjean87 said:

    The history is not made up.  I mean the actual history.  It’s just not clear. Christmas was — the mass — was celebrated on December 25th as early as a 202  reference. Probably definitively by early in that century.  The celebration of Sol Invictus doesn’t begin until around 274 AD. 

    There’s a lot more to the historical investigation, but I don’t have time nor inclination now for it.  The concept that Christians co-opted Saturnalia isn’t absurd, in some ways that happened, but the notion in its simplistic statement is contradicted by a lot of evidence and logic.  

    Sure, I understand there's a history to it. Saturnalia was probably a retread of Rome stuff, and the Rome stuff was Egypt, and the Egypt stuff was Sumerian and in the end was some guys trying to make sense of the incomprehensible. 

     

     

     

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  6. On 2/1/2022 at 8:48 AM, happycamper said:

    Sure, it is. But a lot of it has intermingled with European paganism dating to the ~1000s. Not explicitly showing the pagan winter traditions we've kept isn't anti-christian, which was my point. 

     

    On 2/1/2022 at 8:49 AM, grandjean87 said:

    No. That last part is a simplistic myth.  It’s one interpretation.  We really don’t know with certainty, but there’s just as much historical evidence of the opposite.  

    Guys, it’s all made up. Who can make sense of it?

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