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On 6/6/2024 at 1:16 PM, bornontheblue said:

Not if you do it in backwoods Mississippi. or Texas. or Casper Wyoming. 

Kinda like prosecuting a republican in one of the most blue districts in the country . 

He's Trump. A fraud his whole life. He's not Republicans or Republicanism or Conservatism.  

https://twitter.com/edwardrussl/status/1798739720534671402

On 6/3/2024 at 2:37 PM, bornontheblue said:

No you didn't. You like to think of yourself as deep thinker offering remarkable insight but you cherry pick the data you want, ignore the data you don't want, and rely on the opinions of other idiots who all just wanted the same outcome you did anyways. You ignore the anybody else who offers opinions you don't want to be true. You confuse analyses with justification old man, 

 

 

where is your analysis?

all we have from you are flat earth style conspiracy questions, the same spouted by don jr and dumbf*ck twitter.

you posted link to the ramos case with no analysis.  show us how ramos defeats the outline and roadmap @grandjean87 posted. 

On 6/3/2024 at 12:49 PM, grandjean87 said:

Hunter Biden, under federal indictments and one after political pressure took back a plea deal, is also against weaponization of the courts and DoJ.  I mean, when the AG opens up a separate catch all inquiry into all things Hunter (Barr did this) that's weaponization.  Dad is probably against weaponization of Congress after the impeachment inquiry proved the biggest pile of and waste of time. 
 

As for the NY case, it's pretty simple.  Trump violated Ş 175.10 + Ş 17-152.  We know what he did. We know what was done.  

 

The NY Tax fraud aside, the 3rd party payment by Cohen was a FECA violation

FEC 113.1 (g) (6): "Third party payments.  Notwithstanding that the use of funds for a particular expense would be a personal use under this section, payment of that expense by any person other than the candidate or the campaign committee shall be a contribution under subpart B of part 100 to the candidate unless the payment would have been made irrespective of the candidacy." ...Generally, payments of expenses that would be personal use if made by the candidate or the
candidate’s committee will be considered contributions to the candidate if made by a third party."

Btw: From 2018 when you couldn't touch the sitting president. Too bad FECA is like the NCAA of federal agencies.  

But the earth looks really flat dude. How can this be?

On 6/3/2024 at 1:03 PM, bornontheblue said:

Except federal prosecutors said it wasn't , and they wouldn't prosecute it. Seems like something that testimony should have been allowed on. Why did the judge not allow this testimony? 

Where is the evidence that deducting it as legal fees is tax fraud. He paid his lawyer to get a person to sign an NDA. Celebrities do this all the time and no doubt they expense it as legal fees and no doubt many , many politicians do this all the time. It is suddenly a crime when Trump does it. Why?  Could it be because you have Bidens testcles in your good masagging hand. 

 

Why don't we know the exact crimes that he was found guilty of to elevate this to a felony? Seems only fair to know exactly what crime you have been found guilty 

Last time I checked you need to have a unanimous verdict on a single crime to be convicted of a single crime.  Why did the judge allow multiple combinations to get to 12 guilty votes? 

You know the answer to all three  of those questions, but you wanted this verdict soooo bad that you will let yourself be fooled by nonsense.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 6/3/2024 at 11:58 AM, bornontheblue said:

I don't know. The original crime went past the statute of limitations, and the judge won't tell us what the secondary crimes were to bring the original crime back to life as a felony.  Now add to that the fact that the Judge told the Jury to use any combination they needed to to get to 12 guilty votes, and we don't know what those were either. Is this real? You can be convicted of a crime without knowing what the actual crime was. Hugo Chavez would be so proud of us. 

It is some pretty shady shit, but you just nod your head in agreement because you really wanted trump to be guilty anyways. 

On 6/3/2024 at 11:25 AM, bornontheblue said:

According to federal prosecutors there was no federal  crime He paid off the pornstar and labeled it legal expenses which is perhaps one of the most benign offenses Trump could do.  The prosecutor with the assistance of the Judge, and a very friendly jury pool manipulated it into a felony made up in fantasy land that only grandjean would fall for. 

I unlike you am against allowing politicians using the judicial system to invent crimes take out their opponents. If that is the way politics are going to devolve in our country we may as well embrace the Venezuelan system and fight fire with fire. Go get em Mississippi. 

I am against the weaponization of the courts. I am also against criminals getting a pass because they are politicians or because bornontheblue sitting on an office chair in Idaho doesn't think the charges were serious enough because of what he read on twitter and saw on fox news or because a politician told him.  

On 6/3/2024 at 11:26 AM, bornontheblue said:

Lol, I haven't watched Fox News in years. 

My opinion agrees with other well respected politicians like Mitt Romney and Susan Collins neither of him are Trump supporters. 

Do you think Trump is guilty of the crimes he was charged with?

On 6/3/2024 at 11:17 AM, bornontheblue said:

LOL. let me help you. 

The judge did it as part of a repeated pattern in assisting the prosecution and handcuffing the defense. It is one of the many reasons this will not survive appeal to the Supreme Court. 

 

 

Then so be it.  That's justice. Not you watching fox and thinking you know anything here.

On 6/3/2024 at 11:07 AM, bornontheblue said:

It is one of the most necessary things ever. 

If one side is going to weaponize the judicial system to take out a political rival then the same weapon needs to be used in return. Make rogue prosecutors and judges think through the consequences of politicizing their jobs. 

Go Mississippi , figure it out. Make up some charges, they don't even have to be based in reality as proven by the NY Case. 

Why do you want politicians/Trump do be able to do whatever they want without any consequences?  How far do we let them go?  

Trump did the thing. He's done all the things. You know it. 

On 6/3/2024 at 11:04 AM, bornontheblue said:

Why didn't the judge in New york allow the testimony of the federal prosecutor saying why it was not campaign finance fraud, and furthermore why he was not charged in federal court? 

 

 

I don't know. Out of context questions about stuff we don't understand or don't have all the information about are not evidence of anything.  That's flat earth silliness.

On 6/3/2024 at 10:37 AM, bornontheblue said:

From a Jury pool that is 95 percent democrat. 

How would you feel about Biden being tried by a 12 person jury in  Leakesville Mississippi. It would be a trial of his peers right? 

If Biden went down to Leakesville, Mississippi to commit campaign finance fraud to cheat the public I would hope the fine people in Leakesville would get his ass.

On 5/31/2024 at 11:10 AM, youngredbullfan said:

Say whatever you want about it mattering, this is an objectively hilarious thing that happened

One of the funniest days in internet history.

Lock her up.

we have another contender

@NorCalCoug

On 5/30/2024 at 4:39 PM, azgreg said:

 

That guy was definitely a RINO

The R nominee is a convicted felon, is twice impeached, was found liable for sexual assault in a civil case, and his org has been found criminally liable for fraud. He also has other ongoing criminal cases.

None of it matters.

On 5/30/2024 at 2:03 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Looks like a child saying he won't eat his peas.