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  1. 4 hours ago, modestobulldog said:

    Your TDS caused you to miss the following from your linked article:

    Weintraub’s statement, however, did not clear up the question of whether information is a thing of value, an issue Mueller wrote was difficult to resolve.

    The warning appears more of a partisan jab given the FEC’s inability to fully enforce election laws in the past decade.

    Just so everyone is clear, it is ok to pay for and receive foreign source rubbish as long as funds are laundered a couple times.  Not only is that paid info valuable for selected leaking to "news" organizations, it is perfect for FISA warrants and government faciltated spying on the opposition candidate and his organization.

    Is the Steele dossier the same as getting knowingly stolen info from a foreign government though? No it's not. And even if it was "the same" and it is wrong to do, then that makes the Trump campaign wrong as well. So what are you defending besides wrongdoing here?

  2. 6 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

    Yeah those mean greedy rich and powerful who are the reason everyone has a job and the ones who pay for all the government and your welfare programs.

    Yeah you are right its their fault.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :rolleyes:

    So why are people wanting now welfare? Why now with record low unemployment, etc? Why are people feeling this way?

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  3. 40 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

    IMO I think younger people don’t want to have to compete and work hard at a job with the regimentation, uncertainty, and stress involved. I also get the feeling that people want government to take care of them, or at least be their life line, cradle to grave. They want a simpler and stress free lifestyle. Thus, the trend toward socialism. They think socialism will be the cure for poverty and make us more equal. Just my two cents. 

    I think you are oversimplifying things. Just blaming it all in lazy kids and all. Even so, why do young people feel this way now, as opposed to 30 year ago? Why now?

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  4. This isn't an exercise in socialism versus capitalism. I'm not advocating for socialism. I'm asking why these types of ideas are taking hold at this time. Why are they more appealing than let's say 30 years ago? We need to have serious conversations and realizations about the causes of our current, unhealthy situation if we are to address the roots of it rather than bicker about the superficial symptoms of it.

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  5. 43 minutes ago, SJSUMFA2013 said:

    Your list of mwcboarders is actually the subject of the sentence. “Music” is the object. “I think” is just a qualifier. You could cut it and the sentence remains intact. 

    Hmmm.  What if I said "Jim thinks red, blue and orange are nice colors." Is "Jim" not the subject? Jim is doing the thing. The verb is about him.


  6. 5 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

    “Joe, Retro, Convert, and I.” Jesus, get it together toons. 

    "I" was used as the subject of the sentence, and therefore it was correct to use "me" as an object of the sentence? no?




  7. 30 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

    That must've been a crazy crazy time. I was in 8th Grade too I think...maybe 9th...I forget now haha. I have the poster to the show though still...i stole a copy off a telephone pole in the Fresno Tower District. have hung onto it all these years too. 

    What was your favorite show you've been to? 

    U2...zoo tv tour.  Probably 9th/10th grade as well.  Might have been my second concert.  My friends waited outside a ticketmaster all night and we had like 4th row at Sam Boyd. Wasn't even a U2 fan going in but with the spectacle and hugeness of the show, the 50 video screens, cars suspended in the air, making eye contact with Bono and the Edge because we were so close, standing on our chairs the whole night, all that crazy stuff and being there with this girl I was totally in love with. It was just very impressionable.

    My other favorite show I was about 19 and my buddy bailed on me for Pearl Jam in Phoenix  so I drove there by myself.  Was a HUGE Pearl Jam fan.  Had GA tickets so was able to get to the rail pretty much.  It was so sweaty and steamy in the pit I took off my drenched shirt and chucked it on stage. It was a standard issue Army brown t- shirt like Eddie used to wear.  So Eddie took off his shirt and put it on my disgusting wet shirt...and nobody I knew was there to corroborate my story.  Drove home after the concert and pretty sure I cheated death on account of how many times I nodded off. 

    Found a VHS of that show on a trader forum on the early internet though.  My wife at least believes me now lol.  

    Edit: holy crap it's on youtube...yes! @Nevada Convert might appreciate this somewhat. I started the vid where Eddie picks up my shirt. Ramones opened too.  Almost forgot about that.

    How about you? Favorite shows, that is.



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  8. Just now, Joe from WY said:

    Damn! That must've been a wild one. I saw Soundgarden once. And GnR once. But neither were the same as their early 90s peak. 

    Yeah. It was a wild show though. it was in some Mexican bar, and it was dark, dirty, and smelled like piss. Packed too; the pit was wild.  It was punk rock as +++++. 

    It was 9th grade and the show was at the Thomas and Mack. My dad dropped me and my friend off so it was also a huge step forward in adolescent freedom.  First time seeing heavy metal barely dressed girls at a concert, being around weed, that many drunk people...it was exhilarating and overwhelming.  Mostly I just remember all the cigarette smoke.

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    1 hour ago, Joe from WY said:

    Yeah. He was a Mormon. That blew my mind the first time I heard it. Not as much as when I found out Eldridge Cleaver converted, but close. IDK how devout he was, given who he was hanging around with. Must've made for a bizarre tableau...you can't write something weirder than a Mormon (who might have been an Elder, how devout he was was disputed) hanging out with crazy ass people like Lou Reed, Andy Warhol, David Bowie, Iggy Pop, etc. Mormon or whatever he was though, he was a monster guitar player...among the most underrated ever. 


    Apparently the bassist from the NY Dolls was also a Mormon. Who would have guessed Mormons were into 70s Glam Rock. 

    Killers/Brandon Flowers are kinda glammy/flamboyant.  That conformity and repression will do that to you.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Joe from WY said:

    Their music is totally timeless. Like the Abbey Road album...I don't know that there was ever a better, more perfect album made. Lot of that owes itself to George Martin and influences from William Burroughs' "cut ups" technique, but still, it was a masterpiece. But all of it has that same timeless sound to it. Like you say, a real familiarity to it regardless of how foreign it might be. 

    And that should be an awesome show. I've never seen him live but I've always wanted to. My buddy and me are going to see the Stones in Jacksonville in July. Pretty stoked about that. But also, what an experience for your kid! Damn. I think my first concert was Bad Religion at the Rainbow Ballroom in Fresno when I was 13...hahaha. So he'll have me beat. Anyway, you're raising him right it sounds like. Hope the show kicks ass. 

    I dunno, Bad Religion is a pretty cool first.

    Mine was GnR and Soundgarden opened.  I think that's a good one, too.

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  11. 16 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

    It was among the earliest documented use of the Wah Wah Pedal though, so for that, it's groundbreaking insofar as that. 

    I agree, though, it wasn't as authentic as something like "White Rabbit" (Hell, even the whole Surrealistic Pillow album), but the Airplane was an organic bunch of SF Hippies, whereas Cream was a creation of a record label more or less. 

    Still, I always found it to be a half-wild track. I think my favorite track of theirs though is "Deserted Cities of the Heart". They aren't in my top 10, or probably even top 20 bands, but I like them on occasion. 

    Speaking of Cream, this always made me laugh:


    I do like Cream, probably being a little overly-critical. I was pretty into them when I was 18-20 and working on being a guitar hero. White Room used to be my karaoke go to, lol.

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  12. 1 minute ago, Joe from WY said:

    Ringo was the perfect person for Beatles drummer...his unassuming nature is what allowed them to last as long as they did. If he had been a Bonham, the whole thing would have probably imploded a lot sooner. 

    And Charlie Watts plays a similar role. Unassuming and consistent, a great counter to the egos of Richards and Jagger. 

    The thing with the Beatles is that their music was so fundamentally universal it almost felt like you already somehow knew the songs before you heard them for the first time. Ringo's simplistic drumming allowed us all to immediately understand the song.  He was just clapping along like a kid and tapping his toes like the rest of us.


    Going to see Paul later this month at T-mobile with my mom.  It will be our 3rd time seeing Paul but it will be my ten year old's first concert ever. I'm pretty proud of myself for setting that up for him.  He won't fully understand for a while, but one day in his 30s he'll say "holy crap, my dad took me to see a Beatle for my first concert.  I heard 'Let it Be' live." Going to go all out. Buy him t-shirts, a poster, unlimited cokes, whatever food he wants. 


  13. 12 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

    Let’s play a game. You get 5 slots to make a band and you can pick anyone living or dead. Try to make a band you could see making an album at least as good as anything they made in real life. No double dipping. You don’t get Paul the bassist and Paul the singer/songwriter for the price of one. That’s two of your five slots. So you can’t even make the Beatles under these rules.


    12 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

    John Bonham on drums

    Flea on bass

    John Fruiscante on lead guitar

    Bradley Nowell as singer and guitarist

    Pros: Nowell would be a step up from Keidis vocally, and his eclectic style would mesh well with the Chili Peppers duo. Bonham makes every band better and I’d fight you on this point.

    Cons: there’s no way they aren’t all dead by the second album. Too many push the drug limit personalities. But that first album would be at least as good as anything Sublime or the Chili Peppers made.

    What say you?

    I thought about your Bonham comment for while and struggled to counter it until I thought of the GOATS. Bonham would not have made the Beatles or Stones better.  Ringo and Watts are certainly not the greatest musicians, but what comes from their drumming was integral and critical to the je ne sais quoi of those bands. 

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  14. 20 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

    I like Cream...I think "Live Cream" and "Live Cream vol. 2" were great albums...and I think "Tales of Brave Ulysses" was one of the most mind-opening songs I ever heard the first time I heard it. 

    But yes. They are exceptions to the rule. Most "supergroups" are shit. There seems to be a phenomenon amongst people form the 80s Punk Scene now to form "punk supergroups" which is a terrible +++++ing idea and nothing good has come out of it. I guess Jello Biafra and DOA was good, but that's again, an exception not a rule.

    Ulysses always felt to me like they were trying too hard to make a trippy song.  It just doesn't feel feel authentic like "White Rabbit".

    Kinda like all the fake grunge bands that popped up after the big ones form Seattle.

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  15. 3 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

    Cream didn't. The Traveling WIlburys didn't. 

    Many do suck, but many don't. 

    Cream...eh...not overly impressed. Badge is kind of a cool tune (written by Gieorge Harrisson and Clapton, though). Most Cream just felt like Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton jerking off.

    I'll accept that the Wilburys were pretty decent but clearly an exception to the rule.


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