toonkee

Hail Trump.

Honestly, I haven't cared enough about inner city violence, but what my brain is aware of is influenced by what the media puts out and the topics that are brought up, just like everyone else's. And I'm not CNN. I'm just a media consumer like everyone else trying to wade through the psychological warfare we're all bombarded with everyday. But you're right. Black lives matter as much as anyone else's and we should spend more time on that topic. But I absolutely do not and have not, done the things you accused me of that I bolded but I did demonized irresponsible gun owners. I offered some other possible actions we could take as a humble start. And then I said I would accept criticism of those ideas! I don't know what more I can do. For the 20th time in this thread, all I've said is that the prevalence and availability of guns plays a part in this. That, coupled with the "human" causes, is the recipe for what we have. And do you think phrases like "you and others like you" move the discussion forward, if we're being honest? Sounds like you just want your team to win and I know you hate that kind of thinking.

"When are you going to stop beating your wife?" So we "leftists" are responsible for initiating discussion on all the world's problems? What a crock of shit. And where's your crusade to stamp out inner city violence, anyway? If we don't give a shit about them you don't either. The only time you guys bring them up is when they are a convenient, albeit overly simplified statistic, for some gun control argument.

Do me a favor @bluerules009, @Joe from WY and @Rebelbacker and don't respond to anything I write anymore, and I will do the same for you. I don't need to interact with anyone that considers me to "absolutely racist and stupid".

I don't know. Maybe it will come to that someday if cars are used as weapons to the same extent weapons are used as weapons.

There's always a bigger problem. Doesn't mean we can't address the smaller problems as well. You could be out helping people instead of being a miserable prick on the internet 12 hours a day. You don't get to give anyone shit for having a cause of their choosing.

Voluntary buy back program for starters. Reduce # of guns. Guns must be secured. Your kid uses your unsecured gun..you go to prison. Irresponsible gun owners face the consequences. To quote Uncle Ben, "with great power comes great responsibility". Work towards reducing social media usage. Work toward building community again. And yes, harden the targets. Metal detectors, choke points, etc. I will gladly accept rational criticism of these ideas.

So we agree that the quantity of accessible guns plays a part in this. That is my only point.

Where the f did I suggest any of this? For the third time...gun availability plays a part in this. That's all I said.

You're on the right track in my opinion. I'm an atheist but I agree the decline of church is partly to blame of why we're losing our human connectivity. I don't think it's something like "the good book and Jesus" and all that but church gave many of us community and certainty. Those things are helpful to the human animal mind and those are things and systems that evolved and were shaped over thousands of years. Now we're disrupting all that.

I never said I wanted to ban guns or that banning guns was the answer or that a gun ban would be effective. And I don't feel that way, either, despite whatever horseshit red herring strawman blue throws out there and top25 eats up. I said the availability of guns makes it easier to commit these crimes and it follows that this availability increases the rate that these things happen. I think that's something that should be acknowledged if an honest discussion is to be had. The "it's just a tool" argument to be overly simplistic.

Yes, "banning" guns or something to that effect would not stop incidents from occurring, but I think it's a fool's argument to say this type of stuff wouldn't likely be reduced if it were harder to obtain a gun. You can argue that they might use another weapon, or weaponize some other object like a car, but to say the availability of guns doesn't play a part in this is misguided in my opinion. A gun is a tool, I get it, but let them use a less effective tool.

UNR applicants be like "eh...what the hell?"

Yeah @UNLV2001 you ignorant racist moron.