toonkee

Crap

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason in to.

But not the constitution? Shame on you!

I think the central defense strategy is clear now. They knew right away how f'd they were and were scared as frick of the quid pro quo, so they nipped and tucked a couple words out of the call transcript, which was clean enough to allow plausible deniability to those that would need that to defend Trump, and are trying trying to make it the whole story, the only meaningful evidence, the "if it doesn't fit you must acquit" of this whole thing, which of course it isn't, but that's the main plan.

I will answer my own question. Whistleblower complaint already filed and in congress hands.

This "I want nothing, I want no quid pro quo, etc." talk Trump gave to Sondland. Was that before or after the lawyers were alerted?

Schiff may be a wild eyed pencil necked geek but his trial/closing argument skills are pretty dang good.

I always say we get the government we deserve. To misquote my personal hero, Ronald Regan, "government isn't the problem, we are the problem"

"This is the final word from the pres of the U.S." LOL

Trump is going to get impeached because he wanted the Ukranian president to make a little speech, not to actually do anything relating to that speech, but just to make a little announcement. Think about how dumb that is, how little consequence that would have in the grand scheme of things. That's what he traded his impeachment for.