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I remember during the Rim Fire, when people were running out of their houses in Groveland, and the fire crews were barely holding the lines to keep the flames away from Pine Mountain Lake, SPI and had the gall to publicly grouse about the fact that their timber stands weren't the firefighting efforts' number one priority. Then they and their folks also actively propagated and supported conspiracy theories that suggested the Forest Service and state fire people fabricated and/or covered up the cause of the fire for some nefarious purpose. There are a number of instances wherein the pro-lumber people in the foothills bring a significant amount of toxicity to the table whenever these discussions happen. They're often not good-faith actors. There really aren't many people even in scientific or environmental circles who don't agree that there is a problem in the forests when it comes to sheer mass of timber - too thick, too much fallen wood, etc. You get big fires and lots of dead trees when you have that combined with the shorter rain seasons and smaller snowpacks. These things are happening in June, November and December now, tearing through the downtowns instead of just the hinterlands. So it's a problem, with many interlocking causes, and to fix it both the Lumber people and the environmentalists, and the state and federal politicians, and the fire people, and the insurance companies, and the builders - they're all going to have to get together and figure something out. However, what's more likely to happen is Trump will continue to Trump, and Tom McClintock will continue to Tom McClintock, environmental groups will sue every time someone looks at a tree sideways, builders will continue to build in the forest, the SPIs of the world wills till run every county board of supervisors in the foothills, and eventually the only sensible party in the room will be the insurance companies who won't insure any more houses in the woods. But I'm glad we elected a sensible president who can show some restraint when people die. Oh, eff.

State logging regs are one ingredient in a shit soup that is resulting in these destructive fires. Trumps a moron and a child, so I don't blame him for not knowing any better and throwing a tantrum. But these wise use guys who have been whispering in his ears have blood on their hands too as they've been benefiting from this political narrative when they could have been prioritizomg a way to fix the biomass problem in a way that works for everyone in the past 15 years. But they don't actually want that.

Fake news from the liberal media.

It would be funny to watch Trump somehow make legitimate criticism of the Iraq war sound racist and puerile. But I think that in this moment, Condy wouldn't have a chance.

Also, if someone primaries Trump, would open primary systems impact that at all? Probably a dumb question, but how do they work with presidential nominations?

I initially misread it and thought it was him possibly running against Trump in the General. So the third party part of it was incidental. Edit: also, I don't think it's possible for Flake to beat him in the primaries.

cool, man

who said i'd vote against him as a republican?

Said by someone who doesn't have an answer. As always.

Unless you're a meanie weenie to Daddy. Then you're a loser.

My bad. I thought I might get a real answer.

This post, right here, is all you need to know about Trump's GOP.

You have yet to explain how this negatively impacts you, or anyone else for that matter.

the balls don't lie. any success will be limited and short-lasting.

how is it an excuse to ask you why anyone including myself your yourself should care at all about this?