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  1. 50 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

    Bill Yeoman and the Houston Veer offense caught a lot of eyeballs in the 70's.

     

    Yup---after the veer----there was the whole Run-and-Shoot era with Ware....and then the Briles offense era with Kevin Kolb having some very good years...and then the Air Raid period with Case.....then Herman did his thing.  We've had our moments.  

  2. On 7/29/2021 at 9:51 PM, e-zone99 said:

    I understand that and that's why I used the term optics.  Because to many it would look the same.  Big12 tell the AAC to stop recruiting our schools, then turns around a recruits AAC schools (granted the AAC school will or have already reached out to the Big12).  Big12 claims that the AAC is trying to damage their media rights, taking top teams from the AAC would likely damage their media rights....   Thus I used the term optics, not that anything would underhand, but the way it might look.

     

    Its now a kind of a mess fraught with legal peril.   Thats why it wouldnt surprise me to see something unprecedented like the Big12, SEC, ESPN, AAC, and FOX all come to the table to work something out.  The Big-12 teams get paid, the SEC gets OU/Texas early.   A few Big12 teams are moved to a P5.  The rest merge with the AAC and get enough financial security to solidify their future---perhaps they even get ESPN/FOX guarantee that they will not be excluded from any future playoff structure.  I just dont see the Big12 collapsing.   I dont think most of them have enough individual TV value to motivate a P5 to expand like Texas and Oklahoma did.  I think most (perhaps all of them) will end up in a situation where they have nowhere better to go. 

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  3. On 7/24/2021 at 12:35 PM, Someone said:

    one would think this, but this is the thoughts of rational realistic fans not the thoughts of scorned and bitter UH fans that still want to "stick it" to Baylor and Texas Tech especially and that are bitter about being chumped during the "david boren needs attention Big 12 expansion clown show"

    and lets me clear the administration of UH is one of the few out there that actually thinks like those corned and bitter fans and that envisions themselves as some type of "shot caller" or "conference savior" or some type of "power broker" that will come into a conference and dictate terms of membership or that will tell their current conference what to do and how to do it or that will ask for consideration based on what happened with the SWC several decades back

    every other team in the AAC is lead by administrations that would do just as you say and that is jump to the Big 12 before the phone finished ringing if the caller ID said Big 12.....UH and their administration is the one that will pull a "BYU" and let it go to voice mail and then wait a day or so to call back and start giving a list of demands

    You are an absolutely glittering jewel of ignorance.  Try mastering basic punctuation and capitalization before spinning the toothless Denton townie version of "what the UH administrators think".  Nobody in the Houston administration would turn down a Big12 slot in a vain attempt to "stick it to some old SWC mates".  The current UH administrators were not even around in 1994 and could care less what happened back then.   Lol---they jumped at the opportunity to join a collapsing Big East, with no anchor teams, centered 1000 miles away from them---you can bet your last dollar they would accept a Big12 invite where they would be in the footprint and could play P5 teams from the region.   To continue to argue otherwise simply makes you too stupid to engage in further discussion.  

  4. 11 hours ago, Old_Sparty1857 said:

    Basketball does not drive the bus. It’s all about football. 

    Of course---but a really good basketball conference can provide another nice revenue stream.   Heck, even when it comes to TV, the old Big East had separate TV deals for football and basketball.   They made more from their basketball deal than from their football deal.  They were the exception of course---but there is money to be made off of basketball---and that will be important for a group that wont be seeing a Big12 distribution of 37.7 million a team anymore.   

  5. 1 hour ago, alum93 said:

    That would be my bet short term.  B12 leftovers, top 2 MWC (include BYU in candidates), top 2 AAC, or some combo like that, depending on how many total teams they want.  It could definitely be a really good football conference, but you can't replace Texas and OU and generate the same revenue.  Just isn't going to happen.  Could be a solid basketball conference as well.  

    Actually, with Baylor, Tech, Kansas, plus maybe Houston, Memphis, BYU, and Cinci---it would have a solid core to be a potential top 4 or 5 basketball league.    Still room to add a few more programs.  

  6. For what its worth I came away from the NIU vs Ball State game unimpressed.  I though both teams looked horrible on defense.  Slow, poor tackling defenses.  I saw slow strong plodding running backs.  I saw one receiver with any real speed.  I honestly think both teams looked about like Rice.  A Fresno, UCF, or Houston would destroy both of those squads.  They don't have the speed to keep up.  If NIU makes a BCS game its going to be a way worse beating than last year.  Just picture Rice vs Baylor.    It will set the non-AQ cause back 20 years. 

  7. My god.  Would they even bring 10 people?

     

    Oh please----its on Christmas Eve 5000 miles from anywhere.  Nobody ever brings more than 10 people to this silly thing.  If Hawaii isn't in this bowl its a morgue.  Its there for Hawaii and nobody else.     Its a great trip for the kids, but nobody ever travels to this bowl in any real numbers.  Its on a bad date and very expensive. 

  8. A good old boy will struggle with recruiting Oakland and Hayward. I agree.

    They will hire a few assistant coaches from the area--probably at least one higly regarded high school coach who will help them in that department. No special insight into Dykes, that just kind of the normal operating procedure. Just as an aside, that was one of the reasons Briles (Baylor) was hired as assistant coach by Texas Tech. Obviously he was talented and had been a great high school head coach, but he was also a former president of the Texas High School Coaches Association and had a ton of contracts with Texas high school coaches. Thats a heck of a recruiting tool. Two years later he was hired as the head coach in Houston. Im sure his recruting contacts have played a role in his success. By the way, RG3 was orignially recruited by Briles to play in Houston. Had Briles stayed in Houston, Keenum probably would have never seen the field.

  9. Yep.........BYU could drive a hard bargain with the BE.............I think they might even get to keep their own in house TV contracts & the rest of the BE is under one contract with BYU getting a little cut of that.............Really thinking the BE might be that desperate to get BYU in the mix

    I dont know about that---but they can probably get anything else they want---including naming the west division the "BYU Division"

  10. I'd probably calculate it that way too, but I think (at least hope) you know that I as referring to wins over AQ schools in the era of AQ conferences, hence the use of the term AQ....not at all referring to a bygone era where AQ didn't exist. Not really a shot at Houston, but just looking back from 2003, you have 7 wins v. AQ to Fresno State's 12, BYU 13, and Navy's 18. Overall, I think Fresno State sits on about 18 or 19. So how many does UH and SMU have total? I am not one of those that runs and hides if I am corrected. I think you know that. Again, really wasn't intended to be a slam on the Texas duo and it changes nothing, I just think it adds a little context to all 'the best teams are leaving" quotes we've endured for months.

    I see how your calculating it now. Dont have time to calculate it now, but your count is probably about right. The first half of the BCS era we pretty much sucked--so most of our AQ wins would be more recent. You mentioned the schools history along with that so I thought you were going back further than the early 90's..

    That said, I'd say only S Miss has won more games in CUSA than Houston during the last decade. ECU I know has not won as many games. I'd have to check Tulsa's win totals--they might be close. However, when it comes to SMU---I'd guess all 3 of those teams probably won more games than SMU.

  11. Sadly, this should surprise no one that understands college football or has any historical perspective.

    Edit: It's only week one, so I really should refrain, but big picture is these two teams combined have fewer AQ wins than a team or two I know well. Why anyone thought they really offered something unique (other than a market) puzzles me.

    Certainly for Houston, and to a lesser extent SMU---the "fewer AQ wins" quote is puzzeling. Both have more AQ wins than virtually any team you probably follow. Until the break up of the SWC, virtually all their games were against current AQ programs.

  12. So what you're telling me is the 8 BB schools bring in more money to the all sports schools then what Boise and SD brings in if they don't make a BCS bowl?

    Yes. But any 8 schools are likely to out earn any single school anywhere unless that single school is named Texas or Notre Dame. The good basketball schools can do quite well. You get one credit for making the NCAA and then an additional credit each time you advance in the Tourney. FYI-MORE than half of all the Big Easts NCAA basketball credits come from football playing schools. The basketball only schools share that money. Theres a reason the basketball only schools dont leave the football schools---they would make much less money.

  13. Their percentage of the Tourney credits are considered peanuts as compared to their share of the TV deal. I'm sure they can all leave and form a new basketball conference and still pull in more money then what they left behind with the 30% and tourney credits. Not to mention they can start earning their own tourney credits in their new league.

    So what they'll say is either lose what we bring in for basketball or lose what you think Boise and San Diego will bring in for football or give us an equal share as Boise and San Diego St and make everyone happy.

    The Big East has been averaging 8-9 teams a year in the tournament. If they never won a game they would have 54 credits. I belive they actually have close to 100. NCAA credits represent a significant amount of income. FYI--the NCAA credits are only shared with the basketball schools and the all sports schools. Bowl income and BCS revenue goes only to the schools that play football.

  14. Let me break it down for you. The 12 all sports schools needs the 8 non-footbal playing schools more then it needs Boise St and San Diego St. Expect the 70% football only shares to become 30% before it's all said and done.

    You should really sober up before you hit the "POST" button.

  15. First of all, the BE money machine was due to the fact it was recieving BCS money....that is something of the past, BE will not see any more money than CUSA, MWC, MAC in this new set up... So the big $$$ they were looking at is nothing more than what we will get.

    C'mon. I havnt read/heard any media expert or decent source say that the Big East new contract would be equal to the current Mountain West contract. Ive seen a bunch of sources that say it will be significantly more. The only debate has been how much more. The Mountan West contract is horrible, even the MW members know that.

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