CPslograd

Nah, that would be fine. We should probably compare books within genres though. We could for instance compare jack londons short stories to one you had in mind. I’m not terribly well read in fiction, but I’d be interested in this book club/book debate idea you have in mind. I’d obviously need time to read the ones I haven’t read yet.

Earth Abides is a kickass novel.

We could pick another one, what’s on of your favorites?

Not fair, I haven’t read catcher in 28 years and am very fuzzy on the details. I need to at least read a cliff notes to jog my memory. I request a time extension for this proposed thread

Ok, so what part of this story about aimless introspective self indulgent young people did you like.? Did you find the characters relatable? I did not. I find Mr. Inredible more relatable than Holden. memo to Holden, get a job and stop feeling sorry for yourself.

Seriously Ed? She isn't an Indian, in fact she is less native American than the average white north American. She is a white ass honkey. Not sure why you are walking right across the field facing a gatling gun here. It's honestly absurd to defend her with anything other than the statement NVGiant made, which was basically, "who cares".

And people make fun of hillbillies and southerners? They got nothing on these parochial areas on the east coast. People have lived there too long, which has led to too much inbreeding.

Bing, google, and yahoo might be good places to start if you find it fascinating.

I read that my junior year in HS, which is like 28 years ago. I had the same take as you. The story didn't take you anywhere. Just a bunch of self absorbed kids with too much time on their hands. I didn't "get it" either. I wanted to punch Holden, irritating kid.

Well, she claimed her parents had to elope because of racial hostility for one thing. https://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/elizabeth-warren-native-american-cherokee-controversy/#u-penn-and-harvard-made-federal-filings-based-on-warrens-represenations

and not a likable character in the whole story

Years ago I had a debate about Catcher in the Rye with my buddy Spartypants on the WAC board. Went on for days. I loathed it, he loved it. We are about to wander down that same path...... Overrated my ass. We will revisit this another day.

Did you know a lot of literary experts/critics consider To Kill a Mockingbird a highly overrated American novel? I learned about that 5 or 10 years ago and was floored by it. To me, that's always been THE American novel. It is a coming of age story, has the uniquely American racial theme, flows quickly, has likeable heroes, and a not completely tragic ending. All those things kind of define American literature to me, and of course I love the book. But I guess a lot of experts don't agree with that assessment. I can dig up some links if you are interested, I just responded because I was curious if you knew about that take on the book or not? Because I didn't until relatively recently.

lol

Did you see Incredibles 2? There is a scene with the dad bitching about new math, its relatable and funny.