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On 4/21/2017 at 2:43 PM, Warbow said:

PAC 16 -- 2020

North

1. Washington

2. Washington St.

3. Oregon

4. Oregon St.

5. Cal

6. Stanford

7. Colorado

8. Boise St.

 

South

1. USC

2. UCLA

3. Arizona

4. Arizona St.

5. Utah

6. Hawaii

7. UNLV

8. San Diego St.

Of course!  How did this not come up sooner?

I can really see UCLA and USC being giddy with excitement at the prosepct of sharing their division a Cal State AND Hawaii and UNLV!

This is DOA.

On 3/21/2017 at 8:26 PM, LaradiseCowboy said:

I've personally met many people who have either lived in Hawaii or are from there. None of them follow Hawaii athletics. They're there, but nobody really takes them seriously.

I do agree though that Wyoming doesn't really fit the mold to be associated with west coast teams. Wyoming is a blue collar brand and would fit in much better with brands like Nebraska, K State, Iowa, Oklahoma St., etc. But that is irrelevant and for now we'll have to make due with the MW.

X-cuse me while I pick myself up off the floor and wipe the tears from my eyes...

WYO's Athletic Department and Programs are far more like USU, CSU, AFA, UNM, SJSU, Fresno St., Nevada, UNLV, et. al., than they are like B12 or B10 programs.

Are you joking?  You need to lay off the hallucinogens and psychotropic drugs.

UW has a middle of the road MWC level overall budget AND they rely heavily on institional support as a primary funding mechanism for their programs.

They are so MWC, they put the MWC mountains on their dad-gummed field!!

As long as we're into projecting wild hyperbole, I wnt to go on record as stating that Utah State is more like Cal, UCLA,and Arizona, than than we are like UNM, WYO, or CSEwe.

I agree.  

Not much of an NBA guy.  Much prefer college basketball.

I enjoy going to a handful of baseball games every year, but Baseball is a dying sport.

April to August is a good time to get ouside and pursue outdoor interests.  Until football training camps begin in August, it's a good time to go pursue interest beyond spectator sports.

On 3/16/2017 at 5:48 PM, CockyUNLVPoster said:

We had a coach who learned his craft well in Provo.  He didn't bring an actual offense and defense to Vegas either.

As for the beat down I guess that will be as close to a Zoob complimenting the victorious team as we will see in this thread.  Your boy Fido ran off the obligatory excuse list about being short handed.  From what I see two of those guys he mentioned didn't play the Zags when bwhyu beat them in Spokane yet, you won.

PS:  Best root beer float in Utah is found in Logan. 

Haha!  You noticed that too?

Dave Rice was as close as you could get to a polar opposite of Stew Morrill.  I was amazed that he made it out of Logan alive after the one year stint he did as an assistant under Stew. 

He fit much better under the Dave Rose system (or lack therof) at byu.  But at the end of the day, the problem with "Rat Ball" (very little structured offense and let's not worry so much about defense) at a place like byu is that it is never going to really work.  Sure you might make the NCAA tourney and some NIT brackets from time to time, but that is about the extent of it.

That approach can work with the right group of very quick and athletic kids that can just boat-race opposing teams.  I really thought Rice miight stick at UNLV because of their history of being able to pull in those kinds of kids, but at the end of the day lack of defense catches up with you. 

I really don't ever see that rat ball approach working at byu.  Despite having a team with guys like Mika, Haws, and Emory, who had great success in AAU ball, they are forgetting that those guys had great success at the AAU level specifically because they played tenacious defense and they had enough structure to their offense to get the shot they needed at crucial points in the game.

However, at this point, Rose has had enough success, I just can't see them canning him for many years.

1 minute ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

Although not for the city of Oakland, I'd say a match made in heaven. "Rebels," legalized gambling, "Sin City" you name it, LV has always been an outlaw town and the Raiders have always been an outlaw football franchise.

I would not mind seeing the Raider franchise try to distance itself a wee bit from some of the gangsta and thug image.

I think there are more $$ out there held by real Football fans looking for a team to cheer for than there are $$ out there with gang bangers and thugs looking for a team to cheer for.

Most of those types don't actually end up being very loyal or committed fans.  They buy or steal the jersey and the hat, but that is about it...

29 minutes ago, CockyUNLVPoster said:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/nfl-vegas/raiders-las-vegas-stadium-get-boost-bank-america

Would love to see it happen!  It seems like a match made in heaven or hell or something..., but it just seems like it is meant to be.

For a lot of years, the Raiders organization has been held back by:

1. Being stuck in crumbling dumps of stadiums.

2. Playing in an area of town in Oakland, then LA, then back to Oackland, that many people hardly would dare park their car.

I think this will be great for their franchise and great for Vega$ if they can get a shiny new stadium built on the south end of the strip.  I believe it can also be good for UNLV and the MWC if managed well.  

I also think a beautiful outdoor stadium built right for the Vega$ climate has huge potential with concerts, moto-X, truck/tractor pulls, etc., 

Because it is a such a great entertainment destination, the Raiders in Vega$ will be a huge attraction and they will build a huge national fanbase quickly and make tons of money.  I can see tickets quickly becoming a pretty hot commodity.

Regardless of how you feel about Matt Wells, the reality is that there are probably less than 20 FBS schools that spend less cmpensation $$ on their pool of assistant coaches than the Aggies.  So we are getting about what we paid for.

Wells has had to rebuild his staff basically every year.due to assistants departing.  Some of that may be relationship issues with the Head Coach, but mostly I think it is guys chasing enough money to survive in the coaching profession.

I think he could have done a better job if we had been committed to putting and keeping quality assistants around him.

When did college football players trade in their desire to win football games for a desire to grandstand, bring attention to one's self, and generally act stupid?

I'm not happy about a few Aggie instances from Saturday, but BYU is far from having "clean skirts" in this regard.  I do think it has improved under Sitake.  It was almost insufferable the past few years under Mendenhall.

Just play hard and win.  We don't need the other crap.

2nd Half points for 2016-

Points For USU = 108th in FBS (few teams score less after halftime)

Points Against USU = 109th in FBS (few teams allow more after halftime)

It is pointless to spend any time even looking at other problems until you fix that..

I'm sure you don't care, but Hawaii holds a substantial lead over either of those schools in this poll.

Really would just like to kick out Dre.

Asstecs are fine.

Two years, ago, it was not readily apparent that we would be one of the leading FB programs in the league.  

I think fans at a lot of schools were concerned about the burden of adding more mediocre football teams to a league full of mediocre football.

Now it is fairly clear that that we are winning on the field, in the classroom, and in infrastructure improvements so fans at some of those schools are more concerned about their own status and progress and less worried about what is happening at Utah State.

Thus the "crickets"...

You obviously haven't paid any attention to basketball since your school has been in the conference.

Fair enough.  I'm a FB guy much over basketball.  FB always seems to drive the bus on these conference affiliation discussions.

I put basketball just a notch above track and gymnastics...

We stunk in year 1 but ended up being pretty competitive in Basketball this past year.  We'll do fine in the MWC.  

Did people in the conference not like us in Basketball?  I did not notice.

It would be impossible to read.

I'm just joking.  50 posts per is fine.

There's still the same amount of posts.

I can make it one post per page if you'd like, then you'd feel really hated!

Really?  That would be awesome!

Would that make the board like awful to read?  So maybe not...

Very disappointed.  I felt like more hated us before when it was 125 pages.

Hardly worth commenting about now...

Well, considering that we represented the league in the inagural MWC CCG and won a bowl both years, I guess we can say we are not doing too bad holding up the reputation of the league.

That seemed to be the big concern before we arrived.  Many posters from schools like UNM, CSU, FSU, SUDS, UNR and Hawaii did not think we would add to the competitiveness of the league.

I could take that from the BSU crew, but from some of the rest of you, it was a little "over the top".

In reality, we ain't won the league yet, so we're just fighting for scraps like the rest of you.  That's my take.

Fine. Expect a lot of bumbs from the Rice thread.

Thanks for reviving this.

We got a real shot to get to 125 pages!

Returning starters according to Phil Steele. Should give you an idea of finish for next year. Utah St is dead last. I guess they go back to being the conference doormat.

 

 3    Nevada      18

13   Wyoming    16

26   UNLV          15

26   Air Force    15

48   Boise St     14

48   San Jose St  14

48  New Mexico 14

69  Hawaii     13

69  Colorado St 13

69 Fresno St 13

100  San Diego St 11

128  Utah St   7

Since we have never been a doormat in the MWC, I'm not sure how we go back to being the doormat.

Not sure where Phil gets his info.  Here is what I see as far as guys that played all the time in the regular rotation this year.

Offense

WR/TE: Butler/Natson/Swindall/Andersen/Houston

OL: Whimpey/Vavau/Logan/Fisilau

RB/QB: Keeton/Garretson/Hill

Defense

DL: Larsen/Nielsen/Kamani-Matangi/Seefeldt/Aliifua

LB: Fackrell/Z. Vigil/N.Vigil/MacMillan

DB: Stewart/Suite/Morris

There are some holes to fill with some really good guys moving on, but I would not call it 7 returning starters.

Dave Rice needs to go. Look at how shitty our offense is.

Unlv runs an offense?

News to me...

Looks like this hase become the new "Why is Utah State so hated on here?" thread.

No consistent topic...

Rambling...

Wandering...

But only 11 pages???  

Come on Rebs!

I can agree with that.

I think he was a pretty solid assistant coach at Utah State.

I lived close to Rice when he was in Logan.  Nice guy, but I was underwhelmed by his leadership and communication style.  He just didn't come across as a dynamic, quick-thinking guy with a big strong personality, like most college coaches that I know.

I was surprised when he got hired at byu and even more surprised when he got the UNLV HC job.

I think he is a good recruiter, but I was always a little skeptical about his X's and O's.  I'm not a big fan of "truck and chuck" basketball.  That seems to be all he knows.  And I've always been skeptical about his ability to really lead a team.

Not trying to read too much into it, but Clune always seemed like a bit of an outsider on Matt Well's coaching staff.

I think he pushed hard for the DC job when Aranda left with Andersen.  When he didn't get it, I think it was the beginning of the end for him at Utah State.

what would it take for USU to rejoin us?

Football. 

Then BSU.  Fresno.  SUDS.  WYO.  CSU.  UNM.  UNLV.  and Nevada.

That'd probably do it.