sactowndog

My response was to Dems are never held accountable. So basically I’m agreeing with you and I never said Republicans aren’t held accountable. basically it is only Trump who has not been held accountable. If he were in most other countries he would have been shot or hung already.

Commies that want Judges to follow the Constitution and respect rights

Tell that to Hunter Biden, Menendez, Eric Mazza, Al Franken, Weiner, John Conyers, John Edwards, Katie Hill…. You just don’t remember them because they actually resigned and left public office versus fund raising off the scandal.

Well the latest video by Alioto seems to align….

I was asking Bob

Let’s just say I don’t hear that often

Haha. I am a bit surprised you added me.

I realize other instances of ethnic cleansing exist. I tried to pick examples most people would know. I’m not stating what I believe Israel should do. I am stating what right wing Israeli’s have said regarding Gaza and done in the West Bank. Quite frankly your brief comments of what has happened to people facing campaigns of ethnic cleansing as a historical study to me is more relevant than the article you posted. And again I did not use the term Genocide as you implied in your “final solution” comment. Israel does not desire to kill all the Palestinians just to force them into Egypt or Jordan. Have you watched Israelism?

CV you might enjoy this podcast….. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/plain-english-with-derek-thompson/id1594471023?i=1000658153528

So @Bob tell us how you feel about Arabs while you are at it…..

Below is their last thesis. This assumes, as do you, that Palestinians will remain in the West Bank and Gaza. If Israel follows the stated goals of more than one national leader they won’t. Israel could care less if the Palestinians support Hamas or not because the Palestinians won’t exist from the River to the Sea. Conversely nobody is trying to depopulate Catholics from Northern Ireland or Francophiles from Quebec. My issue with the article is it obfuscates Israel’s clear intent. An intent if people understood would cause Israel to lose support. Most terrorist groups end in a sixth way: because they fail, either by collapsing in on themselves or by losing support. Groups that implode sometimes die out during generational shifts (the far-left Weather Underground in the United States from the 1960s to the 1980s), disintegrate into factions (remnants of the IRA after the Good Friday Agreement), break down over operational disagreements (the Front de Libération du Québec, a Canadian separatist group, in the early 1970s), or fracture over ideological differences (the communist Japanese Red Army in 2001).

So I said I would read out of respect for your opinion and my opinion hasn’t changed. Through the entire article it compares it to situations that had no relation to the facts on the ground in Gaza: the Uruguayans were not trying to remove Uruguayan citizens, the Protestants were not trying to remove the Catholics, etc. Anybody that takes a realistic look at Gaza calls it what it is which is an attempt at ethic cleansing which is exactly what is also occurring in the West Bank https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ethnic-cleansing-gaza/ or watch Israelism if the article were a responsible piece of Journalism not biased by US pro Israel forces it would have instead compared Israel’s campaign to: * the Indian Relocation Act * the Armenian massacres by the Turks * the expulsion of Germans from Polish and Czech territory * the expulsion of Bosnians from parts of Yugoslavia * the removal of Crimean Tatars * the first Nakba of Palestinians Instead it starts with a false premise and explores options that have no basis in reality. Sadly the U.S. is intimately involved in the first on the list and will be intimately involved in the last. It’s also not really a surprise that Trump’s favorite President was Grant. I fully expect him to win and the Palestinian Ethnic cleansing from the River to the Sea to be completed. May God have mercy on our souls.

I went off the summary and start of the article not any statement of yours. If my assumption from that initial impression was incorrect I will go back and read it and reply with my thoughts. in that spirit have you watched Israelism?

You are correct. And I will tell you why. It accepts the false premise this war is about eliminating Hamas. I don’t believe that premise is at all true. The real point is about ethnic cleansing. I get you don’t believe me but perhaps you will believe a Jewish person. Watch the movie. Read the Bio of people like Ben-Givr. Then come back and tell me you still believe it’s about eliminating Hamas.

Did you watch it or do you refuse to hear what they have to say?

That assumes the goal of Israel is to really remove Hamas instead of completing the Nakba from the river to the sea. if you have not watched Israelism, created by an American Jewish person, you should. @mugtang please watch it and tell me how you support Americans doing this stuff to other Americans. Worst than Jim Crow in the 1950’s. Tell me again it’s not about ethnic cleansing.

This film is now available on major streaming services. Created by a young Jewish woman it is pretty enlightening https://www.israelismfilm.com/

Ironically here is a summary of his concurring opinion in Citizens United. It’s almost like he knew he had something to hide….. Justice Clarence Thomas, another member of the majority, also wrote a separate concurring opinion in which he disagreed with upholding the disclosure provisions of BCRA Sections 201 and 311. In order to protect the anonymity of contributors to organizations exercising free speech, Thomas would have struck down those reporting requirements, rather than allowing them to be challenged only on a case-by-case basis. Thomas's primary argument was that anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment and that making contributor lists public makes the contributors vulnerable to retaliation. Thomas also expressed concern that such retaliation could extend to retaliation by elected officials.[33]

To be fair when the others choose not to impose a clear standard of ethics when everyone else is subjected to one they are part of the problem. Let’s not forget Thomas’s opinion in Citizens United Justice Clarence Thomas, another member of the majority, also wrote a separate concurring opinion in which he disagreed with upholding the disclosure provisions of BCRA Sections 201 and 311. In order to protect the anonymity of contributors to organizations exercising free speech, Thomas would have struck down those reporting requirements, rather than allowing them to be challenged only on a case-by-case basis. Thomas's primary argument was that anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment and that making contributor lists public makes the contributors vulnerable to retaliation. Thomas also expressed concern that such retaliation could extend to retaliation by elected officials.[33]

His employer is the American people. I think most Americans not corrupted by teams and shit already believe he has far exceeded that standard. But the discussion is pointless because if 2/3 can’t agree to impeach Trump after Jan 6 they aren’t impeaching Thomas. The Senators are as bought as he is. Let’s not forget he was a key person in Citizens United

Yeah well if you take any of the ethics classes that point doesn’t matter. It’s the appearance of conflict of interest and that’s over a $50 lunch.

Well we get the judges he will appoint

If you prefer in graphical format. What is most galling is we go through ethical training and are grilled for taking a government employee to lunch.

Not really a surprise when Ben-Givr and his allies are in the government and so many are willing to look the other way.

I mean let’s be fair here. It’s not like just GOP’ers who are fing hypocrites. This guy runs Israel’s Department of Homeland Security. If it were any other country they would be leading the charge to sanction him and those partnering with him. But given AIPAC money they all have no problem looking the other way. both parties are beyond repair. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Ben-Gvir