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I’m sure I’ve made it at some point. It leads to proxy wars, but most things are preferable to a nuclear exchange. The difference I see is we had the right of it in practice between markets and central planning. With China, they’re not as far off from us on economics as the Soviet Union was. We’re outgunned on the callousness to sacrifice lives and the sheer number of lives to spend. They make things, we pay for them. Keeping that relationship is central for how we’re built.

He’s not a leftist, he’s an American.

Okay, I also linked to the bbc and Australia’s sixty minutes where part of the clip was to blame Trump. National Review employs some Trump hacks (Which they should as one of the premier conservative publications), but I can assure you Jim Geraghty is not one of them. Edit: I also don’t see how that article was vague. It had links in practically every paragraph to the NYT, the Post, the WSJ, the BBC, newspaper outlets from Hong Kong and Singapore, peer reviewed medical journals; as well as the Chinese Press, Chinese agencies, and the WHO.

It was a partnership. We hoped they’d become more like us, and in a market sense they did. In an ideological sense they did not. And now we’re paying for that miscalculation. But at the same time we can’t just shut it all off. When goods stop flowing across borders, armies, or in our case missiles, start. We clearly can’t trust them with our healthcare supplies among other vital things. But we can tolerate buying less essential goods. We’re gonna have to until a remarkable Gorbachev type figure gets into power and stumbles his way out of the ideology.

The 140k deaths is also over a two year period and assumes we don’t make breakthroughs in treatment. You’re absolutely right to ask that though. Your questions about how long we can sustain this are valid as well. 140k is a lot of trauma. That’s 20 battles of Gettysburg, 28 battles of the bulge, 47 September 11ths...and that’s just deaths from this disease. Everything else is going to become deadlier under a strained healthcare system. But a Great Depression would bring its own lasting traumas, and many thousands of deaths of its own. I’m hesitantly optimistic about the debt, if not the financial ruin of so many people. Everybody is taking a major hit here, so relatively we’re not losing ground economically to the rest of the world. My mood on that will probably change by the hour on that, though.

That was the imperial college study. The 2 million scenario was the no precautions taken scenario. They also did estimates for varying response scenarios. The one we’re currently on puts the death toll in Great Britain at about 40,000, which would be about 140,000 for us.

They don’t have a free press. They kicked our reporters out. This is what happens when you don’t toe the party line. Which is right in line with what happened to doctors, or “misinformers” as they call them, in early January when China and the WHO were telling everyone there was no human to human transmission. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50984025 There has been speculation on social media about a possible connection to the highly contagious disease. Wuhan police said eight people had been punished for "publishing or forwarding false information on the internet without verification". If you really want to get pissed off about the CCP’s lies and coverup in the early days, here is a near day by day account. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies/amp/

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-boris-johnsons-government-reportedly-furious-with-china-2020-3?amp&__twitter_impression=true Boris Johnson's government is reportedly furious with China's handling of the coronavirus, with UK officials quoted on Sunday warning that Beijing faces a "reckoning" once the COVID-19 crisis is over. UK government officials believe China is spreading disinformation about the severity of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, the Mail on Sunday reports. The newspaper says scientists have warned Johnson that China could have downplayed its number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus "by a factor of 15 to 40 times." China had reported 81,439 cases at the time of writing.

It doesn’t sound that crazy. Although I think just about any serious person could be doing a better job at calming nerves than Trump right now. But alas...just remember the versions of us that do get to live in that simulation. They think they have it so good, but we have the tiger movie in this timeline.

This is where the administration is failing. Maybe you disagree with the neocons here, but at least it’s a map forward. The country needs at least the vision of a path forward, even if it’s imperfect and needs to be retooled when circumstances change.

It’s not just you. In a series full of reprobates, in my experience with people who watched it Carol has an approval rate of zero.

Obviously these could be deaths from many causes, but I get the feeling the Chinese people are getting hammered by this. They’ll have the essential gear before us because they produce them, but there is no way those hospitals haven’t been an Italy like disaster.

You want a South Korean response, here it comes. https://www.wsj.com/articles/government-tracking-how-people-move-around-in-coronavirus-pandemic-11585393202?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/jHbCoaLWpX WASHINGTON—Government officials across the U.S. are using location data from millions of cellphones in a bid to better understand the movements of Americans during the coronavirus pandemic and how they may be affecting the spread of the disease. The federal government, through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and state and local governments have started to receive analyses about the presence and movement of people in certain areas of geographic interest drawn from cellphone data, people familiar with the matter said. The data comes from the mobile advertising industry rather than cellphone carriers. The aim is to create a portal for federal, state and local officials that contains geolocation data in what could be as many as 500 cities across the U.S., one of the people said, to help plan the epidemic response. The data—which is stripped of identifying information like the name of a phone’s owner—could help officials learn how coronavirus is spreading around the country and help blunt its advance. It shows which retail establishments, parks and other public spaces are still drawing crowds that could risk accelerating the transmission of the virus, according to people familiar with the matter. In one such case, researchers found that New Yorkers were congregating in large numbers in Brooklyn’s Prospect Park and handed that information over to local authorities, one person said. Warning notices have been posted at parks in New York City, but they haven’t been closed.

You win this round @halfmanhalfbronco, but I got Convert to vote for you. They’ll be building statues of me in Seattle, Reno, San Diego, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to...Pismo a thousand years from now.

No they did not. They’re lying about their numbers.