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  1. 56 minutes ago, RSF said:

    These are not the droids you are looking for....



    I don’t want to get into the financial details. We never do. But we can support our expansion. - PT Aresco during today's presser.

    Is that what he said when they signed their new contract with ESPN a year or two ago?

  2. 2 minutes ago, 818SUDSFan said:

    Almost nothing was broadcast in HD back then. As to availability, The Mtn. was available to anybody in the country with DirecTV. IOW, it was available to basically anybody willing to switch to DirecTV.

    All college football games on broadcast channels and ESPN at the time were in HD.  That's the primary reason why I bought my first HD television in 2006.

    And you don't have to explain to me when and where the mtn was available.  Since I lived outside of a MWC market, I was very aware.

    DirecTV didn't start broadcasting the mtn until August 27, 2008 - two full seasons after the mtn started.  The mtn never got onto Dish Networks, and it was added to very few cable systems outside of the MWC footprint.  In other words, the only people who were watching the mtn - especially in those first two years - were the people who sought it out.  That's kind of the opposite of "increased visibility".

    Then, for the 2009 season, DirecTV had a dispute with Versus, which also carried MWC games.  So everyone who got DirecTV for the mtn had to find some other way to get Versus that season.

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  3. On 10/15/2021 at 4:12 PM, 818SUDSFan said:

    It's wrong to say the Hairmeister never did anything positive for the MW. In 2005, he brought in TCU and created The Mtn network. Both were proactive events which greatly raised the visibility of the conference.

    I think we must have very different definitions of raising visibility.  For the first several years of the mtn's existence, it was not available nationally and was almost only available on cable networks in the markets of the MWC teams.  Additionally, it didn't broadcast anything in HD until its final few years - and then it was only for football games.  All basketball games and other events were Zapruder-level quality.

  4. On 10/16/2021 at 3:04 PM, tailingpermit said:

    Why must you immediately fcking suck after we beat you, could you not allow us just a little happiness after last week?!

    You got a whole week of happiness.  Don't be greedy.

  5. 56 minutes ago, Maynard Delecto said:

    2.2 is a small number for 3:30 ET on ABC though. 

    Colorado State probably would drawn a bigger number #DenverMarket

    It's not great, but it was also going up against some pretty compelling games.  No doubt CSU would have gotten 10x the ratings.

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  6. BYU had their best ratings of the season in their game against Boise State, which makes sense since this was the first game on a broadcast network:

    vs Boise State (ABC) - 2.244M viewers, 755K in the 18-49 demographic

    The games opposite that game:
    Penn State at Iowa (Fox) - 6.904M viewers, 2.177M 18-49
    Georgia at Auburn (CBS) - 4.581M viewers, 1.359M 18-49
    Florida State at North Carolina (ESPN) - 1.073M viewers, 356K 18-49
    Wake Forest at Syracuse (ESPN2) - 509K viewers, 135K 18-49

    And the other top games of the day:
    Alabama at Texas A&M (CBS) - 8.334M, 2.555M
    Oklahoma vs Texas (ABC) - 5.940M, 1.909M
    Michigan at Nebraska (ABC) - 4.629M, 1.464M
    Maryland at Ohio State (Fox) - 2.788M, 848K
    Arkansas at Ole Miss (ESPN) - 2.230M, 661K
    Utah at USC (Fox) - 1.376M, 466K


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  7. 44 minutes ago, Someone Else said:

    This thread is still a thing?

    I thought this was put to bed a couple weeks ago!

    Rumors & fan speculation are just that... rumors and fan speculation.

    I have no 'inside information' from some mythical board member, only a personal opinion.  And not that its worth a hill of bananas, my opinion is that we are done here.  And I just don't mean done as in no more moves but that eventually only 30-40 teams will be allowed into the party (meaning meaningful TV money)... and most of you know exactly who those teams are.  

    If you don't, i'll help, it's the SEC & B10 teams plus a few from the ACC and a few from the Pac 12...  I bet you can name those teams, can't you?

    The rest of the schools will be fighting for scraps and it won't really matter to the tv folks who gets those scraps because it will be minor league stuff and only used for filler content.  There may be one or two teams that squeak in there from the world of the outcasts but I doubt it. 

    So fans here that are arguing who is more worthy of a "promotion" ...in my mind are just fooling themselves.  

    btw, I have forgotten what team I root for this week... is it middle tennessee or app st?  doesn't matter, we are all on the outside looking in with our noses on the glass...

    cheers... (Oh, my board member connection just confirmed that I was right about all of this!!)




    Well done.

  8. 22 hours ago, jdgaucho said:


    It depends on what the AFA brass would value most.  Easier travel, least amount of missed class time, best academic fit, best athletic fit?

    AFA in the Summit would be dealing with the Dakotas, Oral Roberts and Western Illinois.  They'd have a travel buddy in Denver, though, and a D1 newbie in St. Thomas (MN).  Their primary recruiting would shift towards the midwest.

    AFA in the Big West, in a sense, would bring geographic balance.  With 12 members, and a second member outside California, it can establish north-south divisions.  AFA in the north - paired with UC Davis - and Hawaii in the south, paired with UCSD.  

    If AFA were to join the AAC for football only, that could improve their visibility in the East for cadet recruiting.  Joining a conference like the Big West for non-football sports could help them maintain a presence in Western states.

  9. 7 hours ago, bornontheblue said:

    If BSU wins I will stop drinking, lying, cheating , take a vow of poverty and celibacy amd finally get my act together. 

    So who gets to write the vow?

    1 hour ago, BSUFiend said:

    Well they have to play UU and USU every year, I doubt they lock up a third ooc.  I think it will only continue if BSU gets an invite to B12.

    There's no requirement, but I think the admin will try to schedule Utah every year.  My guess is that they'll alternate between USU and BSU.  If they have to play 9 conference games, then that would further limit scheduling USU and BSU.

  10. 30 minutes ago, tailingpermit said:

    I attended the prestigious Sorenson’s Ranch School for 8 months at the age of 17.

    Hence my disdain for the Mormon church.  


    Did you not enjoy your time at Sorenson's?  Is it or was it affiliated with the church?

  11. 21 minutes ago, tailingpermit said:

    Don’t even get me started with the LDS chapel pick up volleyball games.  Used to do that all the time In Koosharem, Utah.  They would move all the seating and construct a volleyball court in the main hall.  Still remember the rug burns while digging balls (jokes aside).  

    Why would you go all the way to Koosharem for your ball digging?

  12. 9 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

    That was the very first money line that came out. Someone posted the line but Im too lazy to look it up. Even -2.5 is ridiculous. 

    Maybe, but not so ridiculous if the assumption was that Conover was making his first collegiate start.

  13. 2 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

    I think a ton of people saw a -1 opening point and jumped on it. The bookmakers are fearful of losing a lot of money. 

    I've seen that -1 line quoted on a couple message boards, but the line history at Vegas Insider shows that it opened at -2.5.  Where did you see it at -1?

  14. 20 minutes ago, baileyake said:


    I just looked at Vegas Insider and it seems like the game is still on the boards, there, but I probably don't know what to look for.

    There's been a lot of chatter today that Jaren Hall will be starting for BYU - I wonder if that wasn't baked into the prior lines.  Or maybe it's something completely different.

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  15. 1 hour ago, NVGiant said:

    I honestly can't remember the name of the place.

    Bodacious Pig is pretty visible - right on the corner of Eagle Road and old State Street.  Rib Shack isn't as noticeable, as it's a few blocks west on old State Street.

  16. 1 hour ago, bornontheblue said:

    Korey Hall was a true Freshman in that game as well and the best Linebacker in BSU history IMO. Even better than Vanderesch. 

    Hall got drafted by the Packers to play FB of all things. I think he won a Super Bowl there and then played in Phoenix for a season or two. I think he runs a business in Glenns Ferry Now. 

    Beck developed into a pretty good QB.  Was drafted early in the 2nd round by the Dolphins and got pressed into action that season for a winless team that had lost both Trent Green and Ricky Williams.  He later got a shot with the Redskins, but ended up on the bench behind Rex Grossman.

    Now he is a QB guru in Southern Cal.  Last season, he trained several of the guys drafted in the first round - Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, etc..  His client list also includes several current NFL starters.

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