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  1. On 3/28/2024 at 12:27 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

    Because Northen Idaho is dependent on the Service Industry, mostly from out of state visitors.  Southern and South Central Idaho is not.  How +++++ing dumb are you lol

    Central Idaho is also dependent on the service industry but almost all is from in state. ( The Boise area)

    IF only the silver mine was still open

  2. On 3/28/2024 at 9:21 AM, Douglaspoke said:

    OSU and Wazzu  will wait for ACC implosion now. I don't see a reverse merger.

    The PAC12 will take what is left from the ACC and with the new 3 (  CALFORD AND SMU) along with Syracuse, VTech, BC . The Pac 2 will add Memphis, Tulane and then Boise, Fresno, UNLV. Then it will  secure the Denver  market  with AFA, CSU and Wyoming.  16 team conference! Best G5 or #4  lowest  on a new P4 Group.

    Doubt ACC loses more than 6 -7 or so members.   That will leave at least 10 member to rebuild.  They add Meephis, Tulane and USF.  PAC 2 running out of options

  3. On 3/28/2024 at 11:05 AM, soupslam1 said:

    Spokane and CoeurDAlene aren’t that far apart, about a 30-45 minute drive. Not any worse than booking an Anaheim hotel for an event at Staples Center in LA. 

    been through many a time.  His point was THE Utah TEAM booked in CoeurDAlene.  They did not. It was the NCAA and hosts who block out the hotels

  4. On 3/27/2024 at 10:41 PM, bsu_alum9 said:

    Women’s higher seeds host (GU hosting at McCarthy in Spokane) . Mens tournament was bid by the University of Idaho (hosting at the Spokane Arena). There was also a regional HS Volleyball tournament being held at The Podium (right across the street from Arena) and soccer events at downtown stadium.

    Spokane has the hotels, just bet Utah got better rates in Couer d’Alene and is less “homely” than Spokane.

    Doesn’t surprise me about the racist yelling. I live in Spokane and run a decent amount and have people yell “fagg0t!!” at me like once or twice a year. Or something similar just for running on the sidewalk. A small percent of people in this region are deplorable. But also very vocal.

    And some very vocal youtube/radio personalities among the alt-right are trying to bring back the racist garbage to North Idaho. It’s a problem.

    NCAA and hosts book the rooms, not the traveling teams

  5. On 3/27/2024 at 12:53 PM, renoskier said:

    Now I know some are gonna bitch and moan about the league getting soft or PC, whatever...but this new kickoff rule actually sound pretty interesting.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39812700/nfl-owners-approve-massive-revamp-kickoff-play

    The new alignment rules represent the most significant on-field rule change for the NFL in years and are designed to reverse more than a decade of declining return rates while also lowering concussion rates. In essence, the format will move the majority of the kicking and return teams downfield to minimize high-speed collisions. 

    During the 2024 season, kickers will continue to kick from the 35-yard line, but the other 10 players on the kickoff team will line up at the receiving team's 40-yard line. At least nine members of the return team will line up in a "setup zone" between the 35- and 30-yard lines. Up to two returners can line up in a "landing zone" between the goal line and the 20-yard line.

    No one other than the kicker and returner(s) can move until the ball hits the ground or hits a player inside the landing zone. Touchbacks will be marked at the 30-yard line, and no fair catches will be allowed. In the event a team wants to attempt an onside kick, it will have to inform officials of its intent and would then be allowed to use the NFL's traditional formation. No surprise onside kicks will be allowed.

    modeled after the XFL I think.  It will look weird but be fun

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  6. On 3/27/2024 at 7:26 AM, RSF said:

    who arent going to make a lateral move.

    So many unknowns.    Newly added AAC schools are being poorly paid at this point in that contract.   If MWC adds/merges with OSU and WSU and then has a nice jump in Media contract it would/could be enticing to the newer teams in the AAC.

    AAC  also could easily lose Memphis, Tulane, and USF to a rebuilding ACC.   Neither conference is a pillar of stability but I think the AAC is also at risk to keep losing teams.

    Again so many unknowns.

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  7. On 3/26/2024 at 7:35 PM, Warbow said:

    I can see Hawaii spitting the Spectrum TV contract into 2 different contracts, one for MWC sports and the other for Big West sports. Right now our Big West sports are getting the shaft as it’s part of the overall contract. Which means the MWC is benefiting from the spectrum contract right now as Hawaii spectrum contracts includes ALL sports. 
     

    By spitting the contract into 2 separate contracts Hawaii would probably then opt to receive their MWC portion of its TV deal instead of the spectrum football portion and still collect on the BW portion. Right now Hawaii has opted to receive the spectrum TV monies (which includes BW sports) instead of a MWC TV deal share. 
     

    If they do that I don’t foresee any PPV football games being aired. 

    isn't the Spectrum TV $$ worth as much or slightly more than the MWC media payout?  

  8. On 3/26/2024 at 6:34 PM, HawaiiMongoose said:

    The travel concern is mutual.  However if Hawaii were upgraded to a full member in conjunction with or following a merger/reverse merger with OSU and WSU, the conference would have 14 full members, which is enough to set up non-football scheduling in a way that minimizes travel between Hawaii and the Front Range schools.

    For example basketball could have a 19-game schedule, with everyone playing home-and-homes against six members and single games against the other seven.  In that scenario the Mountain time zone teams would only have to travel to Hawaii every other year, and it could be a single-game trip rather than a two-game swing (no stopover coming or going).

    MWC commish has said she would like to expand beyond 14

  9. On 3/26/2024 at 7:54 PM, utenation said:

    It will be interesting to see how much the CW deal is worth per school. 
     

    It makes sense that they use P12 networks broadcasting infrastructure since it’s likely all paid for and sitting around.  But yeah, a thrifty way for CW to not lift many fingers. 
     

    I gotta say OSU and WSU have been busy little beavers(pun intended) mapping out their future of survival. 

    Smells like exposure over $$ and a way to keep the PAC network alive.   I doubt it is much money to either team.

  10. On 3/26/2024 at 2:36 PM, Beaver-Poke said:

    and they use the pac 2 network infrastructure.  So CW pitch:  Yes CW can broadcast your games But we need your production studio at very low cost or the $$ make no sense.  I seem to remember the MWC giving Root Sports a sweetheart deal to broadcast our games just to get them on air.

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  11. On 3/26/2024 at 10:11 AM, SteedLaw said:

    And, sorry, how can long can you hold out -- a full year? On $15MM? That is not even remotely possible.

    The reason why people thought they even could hold out to begin with was because of the "windfall" they were getting from the Pac-10 exits. Clearly, that is not happening and $15MM to split between the two of them and continue to run PAC operations (so, really, split between the three of them) is not going to go far at all. Moreover, you are forgetting what got them here in the first place -- no TV contract. Guess what? There is STILL no TV contract and, now, also no windfall. Hence, they are out of time. 

    I think people are not recognizing just how serious the situation just got for OSU/WSU. They are now officially out of options and out of time. 

    There is more coming in than $15 million

    They have the NCAA PAC BB credits that were earned over a 6 year period.  That is somewhere around $80 million after this year

    They have $12 million from the CFP playoffs for the next two years.

     

    Some of the $50 million set aside may be available after the lawsuits are settled.

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  12. On 3/25/2024 at 6:10 PM, Beaver-Poke said:

    All 12 schools are liable for any current lawsuits. The Comcast one has been resolved. 

    OSU also recently received $10 million from the state for scholarship costs. It's the first time in history that direct state aid has been given to support intercollegiate athletics. My guess is this will become an annual contribution, compensating one state entity (OSU) financially injured by the actions of another (UO), per state law.

    To another poster, OSU's debt service on its recent stadium construction is only about $2.6 million annually. Including the new student health center, run by a local medical firm that will pay nearly $750,000 in annual rent, and a university-wide admissions welcome center, which will also generate annual rent payments, and almost $90 million in private donations helped to considerably reduce the amount of the construction bond.

    As far as enrollment goes, OSU set a record for the 27th consecutive year by exceeding 36,000 students at its Corvallis and Bend campuses and on-line students. OSU has almost 25k students at the Corvallis campus, about 11k of whom are engineering students who don't really care what athletic conference we play in.

    Construction on a huge supercomputer engineering building, financed in part by a $50 million gift from Nvidia founder and OSU alum Jensen Huang is underway, as are several other campus construction projects. OSU attracted a record $400+million in research grants/funding in FY 2022-23, an impressive total for a university without a medical school.

    OSU is booming. 

    And I have no problem with a full reverse merger with the MWC in 2026-27, if that's what it comes to. A true western athletic conference composed of similarly-minded and similarly-sized state universities, except for AFA. 

    My son is an OSU engineering grad.    I still go to one Beaver game a year.  Was disappointed when Wyo was scheduled against WSU.  I barely recognize the campus will all the new buildings and remodels in progress.

  13. On 3/25/2024 at 12:41 PM, Chalsean said:

    $50 million won't make it very far.  WSU has $240 million athletic debt and OSU $58 million in athletic debt.  WSU currently pays $10 million a year just on debt interest alone.  That's not including current P12 lawsuits and operating expenses.  Unless the state of Washington bails out WSU athletics, I'm not sure they can afford to join MWC.

    The $50 million is to help pay off the lawsuits the PAC is facing.  

    They have: this going forward after this year:

    $15 million in one time money from this settlement.  

    $13 million from the CFP. each year for the next two years

    $3.6 million each annually for at least the years 2026-28 from the CFP

    NCAA basketball credits over the next 6 years.  I am not sure of that number but it is the biggest Chunk they get.

    Whatever the PAC TV stuff is worth and any TV/media deal they can make.

    What am I missing?

     

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  14. On 3/24/2024 at 4:19 PM, Jackrabbit said:

    If there was even a suggestion of evidence trump took any funds from either of these, he would have been put to trial already.  

    GOP has blocked house efforts to look into SAUDI payents to Kushner.  He has cover

    He totally flipped on banning TiK TOK after meeting with a billionaire donor.   

    Far Right heads would be exploding if Biden did this.

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  15. On 3/23/2024 at 10:00 PM, bornontheblue said:

    I’ve been up and down both the east and west coast. I’ve never experienced the middle of the country, or the south , or the old rust belt states. A lot of my country is love to get at and experience 

    Have you plotted a possible path?

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