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Why throw them a lifeline that they may use to strangle us with? Why buy the cow if you get the milk for free?

I agree...I have no understanding why the ACC added SMU...even for "free". The ACC is seemingly also pursuing "warm body" expansion just because a school is in Texas. Look at the SMU football record over decades. I don't get the hard on for schools just because they are in Texas.

I think the fact that Colorado, USC, and UCLA are excluded from voting will cause a judge t to rule in favor of WSU and OSU. “Indeed, when (UCLA) and (USC) gave notice of their withdrawal from the Conference in June 2022, the Conference deemed their representatives ineligible to participate on the Board or vote on any Conference matters. The fact that eight more members have now given notice of their withdrawal from the Conference does not change this rule.” The Pac-12 took the same approach to board membership this summer. After Colorado announced on July 27 that it was leaving for the Big 12, chancellor Phil DiStefano was excluded from subsequent Pac-12 board meetings that occurred before Aug. 4, when five more schools departed, according to the complain"

Yes, I think the best thing the MWC can do right now is offer a full schedule for all sports to WSU and OSU for the next few years even if we are not in the same conference yet. The Price??? They cannot invite individual members from the MWC to their new conference. Either they merge with everyone or they get nobody...or they pay a huge amount of damages. I think it is in our mutual best interest to let these two fight it out with the rest of their departing members. They still have two years to maintain the conference AFTER the they drop below the 8 member threshold. We can help them in the transition period by giving them stability in knowing who they will be playing. It looks like they technically have from August 2024 PLUS two years to maintain the Pac 12 conference even if they have fewer than 8 members.

I honestly don't "get" the idea of adding UTSA, UTEP, North Texas, Texas State, etc. I see no Boise State, TCU, WSU, OSU, in this group. Which one of these teams isn't going to be there in five years? Who is offering us a big chunk of money to take them? We shouldn't be adding schools just to have additional "warm bodies." 14 members if we add WSU and OSU is plenty. We could lose a few members and still have plenty of schools to form a conference. Does anybody really feel like we are in danger of being raided and decimated by the ACC or Big 12? Maybe they could take 1-2 teams but I can't see much more. Those conferences are already to big. Plus, if we add Texas schools those are probably more likely to get caught up in Eastern expansion. I could honestly see a scenario where some schools decide that being part of a superconference where the "Yankees" are so far in front of everyone, isn't any fun any longer. I could also see the Big12 and ACC being picked apart. If our new conference can get access to the playoff and our champion has an easier path, I am not sure that isn't more appealing. I could see us offering a real solid value for schools like Colorado, Arizona, ASU, Utah, BYU in our league. It is not out of the realm of possibility that the Big 12 could implode. If you slide those guys over into our new league, we are stronger than the Big 12 AND more regional. Just say no to "warm body" expansion. Nobody expected the current opportunity and we don't want such a bloated league we can't take advantage of future opportunities.

Um....WFT? It is probably time for OSU and WSU to fire the commissioner and everyone else and install some consultants or lawyers over there who have their best interest in mind. The whole reason the Pac12 is in this predicament is because the school/conference were not moving quickly enough to react to current events. I would be +++++ing livid if anyone at the conference was dragging ass in any way. I would be very concerned the staff and commissioner were trying to ingratiate themselves with the ADs of the departing schools instead of serving the interest of the remaining ones.

Ever heard the phrase, "Captain goes down with his ship?"

Any network who is telling Stanford who to poach to get certain $ amounts better be careful they don't get sued. The Big 12 threatened to sue ESPN in 2021 for this very thing. I don't think networks are keen to get involved in the Stanford shit show. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2021/07/29/big-12-cease-desist-espn-realignment&ved=2ahUKEwifnbyfxtqAAxWajIkEHcDIBhUQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3jtdb9PBSdMozHrDFGDPm_

This article leaves out another pro for the MWC. They (wsu and osu) recruit almost entirety in CA and AAC have NO PRESENCE THERE!

This doesn't have to do with Colorado state. This is the idea that for $4million per season per school we are completely selling out and diminishing our product. $4 million can be made up by getting an extra 6k fans at every home game. That doesn't happen if you are playing the middle of the night....but to your point...you also have to have a good product.

Good article and that is my point. Most college football programs are not "general interest" type of programming. Only those that live nearby or are alumni really care. Getting money out of alumni by having good game times is really the key. Alumni go to games to relive their glory days. You want them to visit campus and the bars and restaurants of the community. If you could attract an extra 40,000 alumni over the course of the entire season by having better game times and they each spend $100 that is $4million dollars. That is how much we are getting on our TV deal! Imagine if you just put the games on TV for free and really sell the campus experience on TV to try to attract people to games. Colorado State is plenty close to Denver to get more fans. You have to put on an event, however...a real big time college event.

Yes, since you believe communism=not being a trump nut hugger. Yes, they have communism.

I never want to go to a late night in November game again in Ft Collins! I have said for a long time...the MWC needs to put a bowl game down here in Costa Rica at the national stadium in December or January. Great weather and it beats the hell out of most destinations in the US, especially at that time of year!

Great but unfortunately, I see our schools going the way of boxing. They put everything on pay per view in the 1980s and killed off a lot of the younger fanbase who could never watch. If we do everything based on TV money they will bury us in time slots and channels where no casual fans will ever find us.

I hope we STOP defining success as how much money we can get from TV and START defining success on the campus and student experience of football. There was/is value to the non-pro college football/basketball experience. In contrast, semi-pro football and minor league baseball has never taken off. Alumni want to go back to their college town and get blasted for a 2 pm kickoff. We don't want to freeze our asses off at a 9 pm kickoff for TV's sake.