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BSU & SDSU were always looking for an exit from the MWC -- SDSU was supposedly headed to the PAC before the PAC blew up WOSU hold the power in this new G6 PAC - Pretty much everything must be run by WOSU for approval Question over at the new PAC is will WOSU maintain recruiting or will the G6 reality set in & recruiting drops off some. IMO WSU FB is most vulnerable to a dip in recruiting just because it's way out in nowhere & 90 miles from a decent airport.........on the flip side Gonazga BB might help WSU BB since they are only 90 miles apart and could become a decent rivalry
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Started this type of thread on the new board https://www.wcsboard.com/ This board is about dead
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https://lasvegassun.com/news/2024/may/31/wait-is-finally-over-for-unlv-freshman-james-evans/ Wait is finally over for UNLV freshman James Evans When James Evans committed to UNLV nearly a year ago, way back before his senior year at West Ranch High School (Stevenson Ranch, Calif.), he basically pledged to an unknown situation. Evans was confident in head coach Kevin Kruger’s plan, however. And Evans got the impression he was going to be a big part of that plan. “It was like, I’m the first guy,” Evans said. “They really believed in me. They think I can really come help the program as a freshman.” So Evans said yes to UNLV, and since committing last June, he has stacked up a strong summer on the grassroots circuit and a very productive senior campaign that saw him averaged 19.6 points and hit 35.7% of his 3-point attempts while leading West Ranch to the CIF playoffs. Evans is set to arrive in town next week, and he will finally get to hit the court for UNLV on June 10, when the team holds its first summer practice. He has been working on his defense for the past year while continuing to hone his outside shot, as those essential skills provide the likeliest path to playing time as a freshman. “Those two things have been my major keys in trying to get better,” he said. “Being a good defender. Playing my role and being a great shooter. I’m probably going to be on the wing my freshman year, so it’s going to be a lot of 3 and D, defending, getting high-percentage shots. That’s what they want me to do.” Evans is rated as a 3-star prospect by 247 Sports, slotted in as the No. 140 overall player in the Class of 2024. He had offers from Utah State and Washington, but decided early that UNLV was the best situation for him. And watching UNLV’s freshmen make an impact last season only strengthened his conviction. Evans said the UNLV staff was first intrigued by his size and agility, and that they have communicated a development plan with the goal of turning Evans into a premier defensive weapon against guards, wings and forwards. “They were intrigued by how big I was and how fast I was moving,” Evans said. “They want me to get in the weight room. They want me to guard like a 1 through 4, maybe a 1 through 5 because of my height. And I’m strong. So they want me to get my body right for that kind of stuff.”
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Never said I didn't want WS/OS - Would benefit the MWC for full membership of both PAC leftovers
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The best the new MWC or PAC will ever be in the current situation would be the current MWC lineup with WSU/OSU................ That's pretty much the best of what's in the G5. One other potential down the line could be if/when the major powers go on their own & trim their dead weight and there's a new 2nd tier grouping of some MWC, WSU, OSU, B12, ACC, SEC, B10 cast offs Then form some grouping that spans the continent with 4 or 8 divisions in something called the "BEST OF THE REST" Conference & even form a new governing body outside the NCAA
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That's exactly it -- the ship has sailed, just changing the name isn't going to change the situation Could even shed all the former names & start anew with a new identity that like MWC, WAC or PAC won't move the bar on where we sit in the overall college athletics hierarchy The damage is done, none of the G5 are moving up & it's very possible, some now holding the golden ticket, will soon find themselves out in the cold like WSU/OSU College football is no longer for every school & most women's sports are extremely skewed to the power conference schools. The one current last hope is in men's basketball & that could be on the ropes in coming years
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This would be hilarious !!!
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Least with keeping the PAC name, media across the country will always have the opportunity to comment on "how far it's fallen", "it ain't what it used to be" "was once a great conference" and all the memory lane type thoughts about what once was It's like the WAC 2.0..........at one time the WAC was a nice conference & it continues in name only mired in obscurity & now close to death
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Adding a bunch of MWC schools under the PAC name will do nothing -- The PAC ship has sailed & everything you just noted is in the history books -- It really doesn't matter what name some MWC/PAC merger might be.........it's like taking a Rolls Royce hood ornament & sticking it on a Chevrolet , if anyone's thinking using the PAC name will bring any national respect
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Personally, I wish OSU & WSU were coming into the MWC as full all-sport members -- That would only strengthen the MWC overall I can see why OWSU might be dallying because they are feeling their way around this new environment & all the financial & legal aspects that go along with the PAC implosion .........and let's be honest, OWSU have to be shell shocked over what has transpired & basically left the two reeling ...........,, so I can understand why both would keep any eye to any hope of some sort of rescue, however slim the odds might be. With the above a known reality, there's also the very real prospect that OWSU won't get a lifeline and there's a good chance that in the coming years that there could be other current P4 schools joining them in purgatory ........ I see the Big Ten & SEC as moving a step up & that leaves the B12/ACC & current B10/SEC schools in a precarious position that they might also be cut loose.............and then there's another scramble to assemble whatever castoffs, OWSU, MWC into some sort of arrangement As for the name MWC or PAC-XX - Neither is going to move the needle once the separation is done, so I wouldn't sweat over what the name is, it won't matter & few across the country will care except the schools involved
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https://lasvegassun.com/news/2024/may/23/kruger-sees-unlv-as-contender-with-portal-addition/ Kruger sees UNLV as contender with portal additions: ‘I like our roster’ UNLV completed its roster a week ago with the addition of Florida transfer Julian Rishwain, who claimed the 13th and final scholarship spot for 2024-25. Rishwain is one of four Division I transfers joining the team next season, along with a pair of incoming freshmen, a juco transfer and six returners. With the transfer portal closed and all roster spots accounted for, this is the team UNLV will put on the floor on opening night. Coach Kevin Kruger believes it’s a step forward. “I thought we had a great portal season,” Kruger said. “We made some great additions, along with our incoming [freshmen] and our returning players. I like our roster.” While some other Mountain West teams were stripped of their most effective players, UNLV was able to retain point guard D.J. Thomas, one of the nation’s top freshmen last year. The team was also able to hold onto starting forward Rob Whaley, scoring guard Brooklyn Hicks and backup big man Isaiah Cottrell. Senior forward Jalen Hill was also granted a medical redshirt, giving him a sixth year of eligibility, and forward Jacob Bannarbie will be activated after taking a redshirt as a true freshman. Thomas is the crown jewel and may be the Mountain West’s best returning player after posting 13.6 points and 5.1 assists as a frosh. While Thomas could have entered the portal and instigated a bidding war among power-conference programs, he decided not to test the market and stick with UNLV, where he has a healthy NIL deal already in place. Kruger was always confident that his key players would return, but he admitted there were some tense moments in the final days as he waited for the portal to close. “There’s always going to be a level of anxiety,” Kruger said. “I would love to see that be something the NCAA could change or take a look at, with something being binding on the players’ side, so if they say they’re coming back, it’s an agreement.” Because Kruger was able to retain multiple starter-level players, it allowed the UNLV staff to focus on using the portal to fill gaps and augment the roster. Kruger identified length and shooting on the perimeter as top needs and brought in transfers who fit that profile. Senior Jailen Bedford is a likely starter after averaging 14.6 points per game at Oral Roberts last year, and Jaden Hensley (DePaul) could push for the starting five as well. Boise State transfer Jace Whiting shot 50.0% from 3-point range last year, and Rishwain was a productive marksman at San Francisco before playing one injury-shortened season at Florida. Bedford, Hensley and Rishwain are seniors, while Whiting is a junior who has experience in the Mountain West. “We feel those guys have great experience,” Kruger said. “They are day-in, day-out guys. That’s something we were really looking for in the portal, and we were very deliberate and exact and precise in the guys we went after.” Asked whether he thinks the group he has assembled can vie for the top of the Mountain West next season, Kruger was decidedly optimistic. “I think so,” Kruger said. “With our returning group, with our additions, I think we’ve formed a very good roster. I think they will challenge each other every single day and be a pretty good team.”
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2024 Mountain West Conference Softball thread
UNLV2001 replied to Bronco7454's topic in MWC Sports Forum
Could be the case, especially in women's sports -- there's a big drop from the old P5 to G5 programs, so can see why OSU & WSU could see mass exodus not being in the power mix anymore -
2024 Mountain West Conference Softball thread
UNLV2001 replied to Bronco7454's topic in MWC Sports Forum
The move to the WCC could backfire on OSU & WSU -
2024 Mountain West Conference Softball thread
UNLV2001 replied to Bronco7454's topic in MWC Sports Forum
Same with baseball & women's basketball -- MWC is woefully behind Would also think in baseball that SDSU, UNLV, Fresno St, SJSU would be able to put together solid teams most years - and Nevada could be added with proximity to Cal recruits In women's sports there is a major chasm between the power conferences & the G5