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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
Jesus was clearly talking to his followers about the right and wrong way to judge others. Arguing otherwise is dumb. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
“First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” Much to the point of this article, there can be no doubt that those final words—”take the speck out of your brother’s eye”—are, indeed, permission to judge so long as it is done rightly. https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/judge-not-2 Good read here. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
Dude, the vast majority of scholarship on what the bible says about judgement agrees with me, not you. Vast, overwhelming majority. John 7:24 is talking about the wrong and right way to judge others. You are dead certain you are right. I am dead certain you are not. No minds are getting changed. You judge posters on here allllll the time lol -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
Yes, it CLEARLY is a calling to righteous judgement of others. Every single theologian on the first 5 pages of google after googling "what does the bible say about judgement" agrees with. None agree with you. They all, regardless of denomination, site John 24:7 as an example of how to properly judge others as commanded by Christ. Yer wrong dude. Jesus and the rest of the new testament clearly state there is good and bad judgement of others. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
“Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?” (1 Corinthians 6:2-3). -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
"Judge not" is the most overused, misunderstood cliché in Christianity. In that same sermon Jesus demands of us to judge so as to be able to identify swine, dogs and false prophets. That simple. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
Paul was pretty judgmental. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
Yes, it is LITERALLY talking about judging others. It is a condemnation of superficial judgement and a call to judge wisely. PEOPLE. Again, how does one go about identifying the swine, dogs and false prophets? Do they have signs around around their neck? No. It requires you JUDGE them. And John 7:24 is absolutely not saying it is ok to judge other PEOPLE, it is a calling to do so in a wise manner. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
John 7:24 bud.... Yeah, hypocritical judgement makes you a hypocrite. You are ignoring the greater context of the passage, purposefully. Jesus gave us a direct command in to judge others in John 7:24 In that same sermon Jesus commands you to judge, swine, dogs, false prophets you will know by their fruits. This requires judgement. Yes, I can judge a murderer without being a hypocrite because I am not a murderer. That simple -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
So still ignoring John 7:24 huh.... And laughable you think a dead 4 year old will face judgement... -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
Lol. Explain John 7:24. The words of Jesus are clear and succinct. "Judge in good judgement" clear. Succinct. It is a direct command from Jesus to judge others. A direct clear succinct command. There are bad and good ways to judge. Sorry buddy, your scriptural knowledge is severally lacking. Again, how do you go about identifying the swine, dogs and false prophets? From the exact same sermon. It requires judging their words and actions. You are ignoring the context of that passage. It does NOT say to never judge, period. It simply does not say that. John 7:20 says under no uncertain terms we are to judge in good judgement. Not judging ever makes you a net harm to society, to friends, to loved ones. If instead of graduating college, your daughter dropped out to work at the bunny ranch and pick up a meth habit, it would your Christian duty to judge her for it and set her on the right path. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
Hypocritical judgement makes on a hypocrite. I love how you are just ignoring John 7:20 where we are given a direct command to judge others in favor of your interpretation of the passage that ignores the context immediately preceding and following it. Do not throw your pearls before swine. Do not give to dogs what is sacred. Watch for false prophets. How do we identify the swine, dogs and false prophets? In order to identify them we must judge them on their words and actions, there is no other way. Jesus tells us to Judge in John. The apostle John tells us to judge. Paul judges the Ephesians in the same sermon you are quoting Jesus says we can identify false prohets by their fruit. This requires judgement. Galatians 6:1 commands us to judge. Later in Mathew we are once again advised to judge. Ephesians 4:15. Sorry bud, scripture is not on your side. If you believe you should never judge, fine, just don't tell us you came to that conclusion through a superior understanding of scripture. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
There are good ways to judge and bad ways to judge. Christ literally say we are to judge in John. Your interpretation of that passage is in error. When looking at the totality of the New Testament is is clear you have a Christian duty to judge. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
In that same sermon, how are we to know who the swine, dogs and false teachers are if we do not judge them, huh? My god man use your brain here. -
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halfmanhalfbronco replied to retrofade's topic in Non-Sports items
Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment. John 7:20 @bornontheblue Jesus literally commands us to judge....