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I would love to have Memphis and Tulane.

Interesting. Beavers have to play: #1 Boise State #2 UNLV #4 Air Force #5 Colorado State #8 San Diego State #10 San Jose State #12 Nevada That’s a tough draw for a team that lost almost all of its key starters. I wonder where Oregon State would rank if they and WSU were included in the poll. I want to say 4 or 5, but maybe I’m being too optimistic given what they lost. Air Force also lost a lot of production from last year I believe. Thats why I’m thinking in that range.

Excellent post. As a fan, I want the Beavers to play at the highest level possible so I’m supportive of exploring all options. That being said, I realize that there isn’t much hope of being called back up to the “big leagues” (financially speaking). It looks like joining with the Mountain West (in whatever form that is) is by far the most probable outcome. Once that is set in stone, our fan base will just adjust to it. I think that it’s a great fit culturally and we could form some great regional rivalries. Feels like we already have that with Boise and Fresno to some extent.

As a Beaver fan, I appreciate this point of view. It feels like we're in a tough spot and don't yet know the outcome of the legal battle. The Mountain West helping with scheduling in the short term would obviusly be a good deal for Beavs/Cougs as they figure out where they are at. The Mountain West teams would benefit financially and in SOS as you said. I also understand the concern from some MW fans though. I wonder if the Beavs/Cougs could just sign something as part of the scheduling agreement that simply says that we won't poach teams in the future. So if we rebuild the Pac-12, all MW teams will be included and obviously if we end up somewhere else, the Mountain West won't be losing anything anyway. Maybe this wouldn't be necessary because of the MW buyouts though. The MW has already protected itself in my opinion. Paying buyouts isn't really a logical option so it seems like the reverse merger would be the only option if MW teams joined under the Pac umbrella. Really interested to see how this plays out.

This is where I’m at as well. It’s just too much money for them to allow it regardless of how things are written. They’ll find a way out of it. If they can’t, WSU president might suddenly die of “natural causes” and need to be replaced on the board. Mostly joking about that last part, but $300 million is a lot of money..

I agree. Not only would scheduling be very difficult. I feel that the uncertainty would be worse for recruiting/player turnover than straight up joining the MW. There has to be a line drawn somewhere between holding out for what you think is the best possible outcome vs screwing over the whole program in the short term.

To be honest, I don’t really know. There are many opinions on what could happen and what people want but not really any general consensus. I think most people have stopped guessing at this point. Just waiting for those legal issues to be resolved.

So how do the exit fees work with x amount years notice? Or is it generally going to be a minimum of $17 million no matter what? It’s probably been stated before, but it’s still a bit confusing to me. Also, how would that $17 million be paid out? I thought I read that it was $5 million for year 1 and 2 then the remaining $7 million paid out over time. I don’t remember where I read that or if I’m remembering correctly. Or is it all paid at once?

You could have stopped at “This is crap.” I’m not arguing about who would make the cut, but this guy can’t be older than 15. Just posts the dumbest and most unrealistic ideas possible.

If the Pac-12 dissolves, they will join the Mountain West as an equal member. There’s no question about that. I also believe that a reverse merger is the safest, most reasonable and most likely outcome if they gain control of the Pac-12. At the same time, it sounds like playing as the Pac-2 is something that’s at least being considered. I’m not suggesting that it’s wise (the idea kind of scares the crap out of me), but if they have more than one option, they can at least claim that they are in control of what THEY do. I understand your point though. They need to be in a conference in the near future and that will require them and the other teams involved to agree to the terms. So I don’t see a scenario where they get to have unequal revenue.

I agree with you on that. The primary objective is to take control of the conference entity and brand. At that point, they could hopefully find out what the assets and liabilities really are. I would hope that after August of 2024, when the other teams join their other conferences, they will move on. I don’t have faith that they will though.

The Mountain West will not pass on them. Get over yourself. Nevarez isn’t stupid. She’s giving them space to figure out their legal issues. If it all falls apart, they will still have a spot in the Mountain West. By the way, I was talking in hypotheticals. “Maybe” and “might” mean that I’m not stating facts. You saying the MW is our savior and has all the leverage makes you sound arrogant. Some people on this board get real butt hurt and defensive when anyone suggests something that they don’t agree with.

If they gain control of the Pac-12 and the assets, they might be. I say might because I have no idea how valid anything is that people have heard, but if they control the future of the conference, gain the assets and actually play as the Pac-2, they are most definitely in charge of that conference and how they approach the future. At this point, you’re correct though. Everything is up in the air so they aren’t in charge. But who is? Seems like that’s yet to be determined.

I didn’t say the path was easy for either team. 6 of the next 9 games for the Beavers are against teams that are currently ranked. It looks daunting. Running the table would be difficult for Fresno, but slightly less difficult imo. Anyway, dream scenario implies that I don’t think it’s likely.

If this ends up being the case, a dream scenario (for me) would be Oregon State and Fresno making a NY6 Bowl this year. Having 2 teams accomplish that going into the merger would help with the outside perception of the conference. Maybe even would help with a future media deal. That path looks easier for the Bulldogs than the Beavers.