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  1. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    First off, WELCOME 702!!!! Yes this is true. He was brought here to retire and caregive. He handed Lon a ready to go program with two nba players and Romel Beck. Lon did not get a dumpster fire like Menzies got. I only say that to illustrate how unfair people are to Marvin, saying he cant coach, blah, blah, blah. Lon is beloved here, but he drastically underachieved his first couple of seasons here, and never won the conference, which had fewer teams and was about as good as it is now, just not deeper. I think Ntambwe and Diong are great role players, and every team needs those. Hamilton and Anderson could be those star players and Woodbury could that shooter still. Kendall Wallace shot 20% from 3 his freshman year. I admit 20% is better than 0%. But we will see. Diong dominates the paint on defense, but I know you meant dominate as a scorer. I agree with that as well. We do not know what level Marvin is here yet, but he has definitely not shown anything the level of Lon. He's definitely not better over their careers, but this is Marvins first stint at a major D1. I think he's much better as a recruiter. Kruger had that one great S16 year and every other year he was bounced one and done, maybe one other win? Marvin can definitely do that. Lon gets overhyped here because most people became fans when he was coach. A lot of us were fans well before that, though. So we know that what Lon did here is the default level of UNLV for a decent coach. Bayno, Rice were first time head coaches. They recruited like crazy, but ran shoddy programs. Spoon came here to retire. Marvin is doing something in recruiting and building that has never been done at UNLV. He's using the san diego state model. sdsu dominated the mwc for 10 years with that model. If he gets UNLV to that level, UNLV is the type of program that could catapult up into Nat Champion levels because of the brand, but he's got to get it to that lower rung, first. Theres just no patience for building among this fan base. But it will pay off and I think Menzies is a good coach.
  2. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    Remember, I was only talking about the 1st 4 years. Yes those two teams were there, but Lon also finished below afa 4 times. Sdsu was a bottom feedert and byu was replaced by fresno, similar. None of those teams were as good as reno is now, and there are more teams by almost double. Sdsu is now perennially good, fresno is up. And Lon took the program over ready to go. He did not inherit a dumpster fire from Spoon. The more I look at this, Spoon is looking like the comp for Marv. But I think Marv may be able to do what Spoon did at St Louis, not what Spoon did here. That would be decent, not great.
  3. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    Not a whole lot better, just better. Spoon also coached 9 more seasons, so.... I might be inclined to agree that it is easier. But Spoon got most of his ncaa appearances (5) at missouri state, which is an apples to apples comp to nmsu. The fact that you completely omit that from the above shows you are being disingenuous at best. The inconsistency and unwillingness to be fair in your analysis are a bit startling. Not even trying to convince you. Just pointing these things out.
  4. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    Marvin neither.
  5. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    Spoon spent 10 years at higher level programs, St Louis and UNLV. Spoon had 3 more ncaa appearances and ncaa wins than Menzies in that time. That shows poorly on Spoon. You spin it as a positive, but its not. Marvin got all of his ncaa appearances (5) at a low level mid major. Spoon also had (5) at mizzu state. He got 1 win in the ncaa there. Woop dee doo! The rest of what you said is if, probably and in my opinion. Cant do a thing with that..... Based on their resumes, Spoon just coached longer. He wasnt a superior coach. In 10 years coaching at high majors UNLV and St Louis, Spoon had 2 ncaa wins. No way Marvin keeps his job with results like that.
  6. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    I only care about what they do at UNLV. We will definitely have to agree to disagree here... No postseason at UNLV with an NBA point guard. Extremely poor recruiting. 19 years as a head coach. 8 ncaa tournaments. 3-8 in the ncaa. 2 of the 3 ncaa wins came at st louis. By the numbers Spoon and Marv are very similar. Spoon 10 seasons at UNLV and St Louis. Major d1 programs. Marvin only 2.5 years at a major program here in Vegas. Seems your assessment of Marvin is just way premature or you are not giving Marvin the same credit for his 5 ncaas (0-5) at nmsu as youre giving Spoon for his 5 ncaas (1-4) at mizzu st. Recruiting wise its not close. Marvin is blowing Spoon out of the water recruiting to UNLV. Bayno left Spoon a decent roster. Much better than what Rice left Marv. Not sure how youre calculating "better" or "pretty good".
  7. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    I fixed that for you.
  8. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    I agree with everything here, 100% how I see things. Based on where the program was when he got here, its just not likely that anyone would be able to bring in all immediate impact players. People love Kruger, but he finished 4th mwc his first two seasons and he started off with 3 pros on his roster. I dont understand why Menzies does not get the same benefit of the doubt considering his starting point. Its really weird! That said, I recall a lot of grumbling about Lon before year 3, when he got his son to come here. Most players make their greatest leap in production from freshman to sophomore season. Marvin better make that happen or he will be in deep trouble here. I just dont see that as possible based on what he has had to work with. Its not his fault he had to sign some of the players he's had. As those players move out, he's bringing in his core. I do blame him for not landing a pg sooner, but he did land Ethan so its cool, for now. The assessment of his coaching ability, to me starts this year, and will be mostly measured by the final MWC finish, or less likely, 3 days in March. Marvin needs a solid finish in MWC play. A 3rd place finish is overachieving for this roster and is probably pie in the sky! If he pulls that off he will silence his critics and probably gets extended. I want Marvin to dominate now, or at the latest next year. Underachieve next season and DRF needs to go coach shopping.
  9. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    I also find this to be 100% true. Lon was the best coach here since Tark. But he was an extremely sometimey and lazy recruiter. We can only speculate as to whether he would have improved or what he would have done. Probabilities say he would have kept an NCAA streak going, but who saw 11-21 coming for Lon two seasons ago? I certainly didnt. Thats because of his recruiting and that happened at a p5. Please dont try to convince me here, I really dont care about Lon. He bounced. That was his choice.
  10. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    My sentiments exactly.
  11. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    I still think this is a top 5 mwc team. Its just where the program is. Thats the same as the beginning of the season. Not lowered at all. We all knew this team was young and the pg was a mediocre player from Akron. I also said before the season started that if Clyburn ends up being a leading scorer, its going to be a long year. He is the leading scorer. ugh "Im not surprised, bishes" - Nick Diaz
  12. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    Im sorry, not trying to be a jerk here, but this is a jaded attitude that is a hangover from the Dave Rice tenure. Why cant you be hyped about good recruits and have faith in the coaching staff? Why do they have to be mutually exclusive? Serious questions. Muss is recruiting 4 and 5 star guys now. The Martin twins were very high 4 star recruits. They were not winning at this level until bringing in those guys. You need good players. I dont buy into the narrative that reno fans are trolling here. Dave Rice had ZERO freshman on his first UNLV team. He had a full year to identify and bring in his guys. At BYU, he was already recruiting at least some players that could play at UNLV like Katin Reinhardt. Menzies had to spend the entire shortened offseason recruiting players just to have a season his first year. There are still 3 players on the roster from that class, which has greatly impacted recruiting. Rice and Muss did not have those restraints on growing their programs. Lon's first UNLV team had Louis Amundson, Joel Anthony and Romel Beck. and he finished 7-7 for 4th in the MWC with NBA players on his roster. He did not finish above 4th place until his 3rd season. Marvin has taken much less talent and coached it to 8-10 last year, the same record as Rice in his last two seasons. If Marvin finishes 5th or above this season that is nothing short of working a minor miracle. Hate on that if you want, but that is true and youd be crazy to want to fire him at that point. The real question is, what level of conference finish would warrant DRF extending Marvin after this season. If he bombs and finishes below .500, it should not even be considered. If he finishes top 3, she should probably extend his contract so recruiting moving forward is not negatively effected.
  13. It seems as though 99.9995% of reno fans are trolls, and spend more time talking about UNLV than they do their own program.
  14. qwelish

    UNLV AT ILLINOIS

    Dont waste your time. The guy is nothing but a troll. Not even worth responding to. Id highly suggest the Ignore button.
  15. qwelish

    UNLV Basketball

    No one is saying that. Where are you reading this, exactly? Everyone here is saying the team is young, inexperienced and has a ton of projects. No one on the current roster, or even next years roster will even utter the letters NBA. This season and Menzies approach is all about building for the future. Many of us have huge questions about how the future will actually play out, and at least some of the bickering between Rebel fans is due to the talent level being a bit down and questions as to whether Menzies will be able to coach up this young bunch. You guys are stuck in a time warp and its obvious outside fans are not paying attention to our program. UNLV is flying about as far under the radar as they ever have at this point. P.S. Hows boise looking this year?
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