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[spc_ops]

ok guys here is my random thought of the day.

Are there to many mid majors? - I would say yes.

Would the MWC benefit if there were less FBS teams? we are about to find out now that the WAC is going away.

or would you say that having more teams helps pull down some of the concentraion from the big 5 conferences?

My logic goes something like this. The top 5 conferences get their pick of players regardless, but outside of that, if you were to take all the mid major conferences and cut them in half but keep most of the good players in the FBS level, wouldn't conferences like CUSA and the MWC be able to compete better?

Or do you really even care? Has greed destroyed CFB all together?

[spc_ops]

ha! by the looks of my thread title I am only thinking there are two too many teams. Freudian slip to Idaho and NMSU going back to FCS perhaps- heheh.

[Boise fan]

While I see your point, CFB has become all about money. How do you tell a bunch of programs they have to go down a level? Especially since many programs are trying to come up from FCS to FBS.

How do you choose?

Does a Washington State make it? Colorado? Vanderbilt? Minnesota?

[spc_ops]

While I see your point, CFB has become all about money. How do you tell a bunch of programs they have to go down a level? Especially since many programs are trying to come up from FCS to FBS.

How do you choose?

Does a Washington State make it? Colorado? Vanderbilt? Minnesota?

well I can't fathom asking anyone to drop down, but perhaps an expansion freeze could help.

we know even with AQ going away that there is still a level seperation. Once could say mathmatically that there is even a third tier in what we call FBS.

[Boise fan]

well I can't fathom asking anyone to drop down, but perhaps an expansion freeze could help.

How about making CFB a real national thing - limit the number per state, but every state gets at least one rep? Perhaps make a few adjustments for population size - so a few states get more than 2 teams?

Just spitballin' here.

[runandgunner]

your logic gives away your bias...for me competition is good...the more the merrier ...phuck the big 5 and all them greedy phucks that are destroying cfb

[spc_ops]

your logic gives away your bias...for me competition is good...the more the merrier ...phuck the big 5 and all them greedy phucks that are destroying cfb

not according to the NFL and the NHL. Too many teams delutes the talent pool. How long was the NHL at like 8 teams?

[Boise fan]

your logic gives away your bias...for me competition is good...the more the merrier ...phuck the big 5 and all them greedy phucks that are destroying cfb

Yeah, but you can't grow forever - CFB is not the universe, forever expanding. It's driven by money. That's why the Big 5 keep a tight watch on it. The more that join in, the less there is for everybody. And eventually it'll get to the point that many programs won't be able to compete financially.

So a limitation of some sort is coming. The talk about the big 5 break off was the start.

[Boise fan]

I think the future of CFB will see it take on a more "professional" sports model. There will be schools organized into regional groups that will share equally revenue between them, as well as recruits. Not this conference vs conference competition for money and resources.

The east and west might split up, with each side forming their own "leagues" and having the champions of each play each other for the national championship.

Just spitballin' again...

[spc_ops]

Yeah, but you can't grow forever - CFB is not the universe, forever expanding. It's driven by money. That's why the Big 5 keep a tight watch on it. The more that join in, the less there is for everybody. And eventually it'll get to the point that many programs won't be able to compete financially.

So a limitation of some sort is coming. The talk about the big 5 break off was the start.

good points.

This however is already happening "And eventually it'll get to the point that many programs won't be able to compete financially."

[spc_ops]

I think the future of CFB will see it take on a more "professional" sports model. There will be schools organized into regional groups that will share equally revenue between them, as well as recruits. Not this conference vs conference competition for money and resources.

The east and west might split up, with each side forming their own "leagues" and having the champions of each play each other for the national championship.

Just spitballin' again...

stop spitting.

[runandgunner]

not according to the NFL and the NHL. Too many teams delutes the talent pool. How long was the NHL at like 8 teams?

cfb is not a pro sport ...a business that has to maximize profit...which is the point. more importantly pro football took steps to insure all teams had a chance to be competitive...something the stoopid phucks running cfb don't understand...they are too busy trying to get on the gravy train forever

[Boise fan]

cfb is not a pro sport ...a business that has to maximize profit...which is the point. more importantly pro football took steps to insure all teams had a chance to be competitive...something the stoopid phucks running cfb don't understand...they are too busy trying to get on the gravy train forever

Agree. But the model will not sustain itself long term. It took only a dozen or so years for the BC$ to change. Things will continue to change until they finally adopt proven successful models. Like those adopted by professional sports.

[Reb Baron]

I agree, I think every team that became FBS within the last 20 years should be forced to return to the FCS level. That should shake things up nicely and increase the competition as you desire.

[runandgunner]

ok ...so when did boise move up to fbs?

[runandgunner]

Agree. But the model will not sustain itself long term. It took only a dozen or so years for the BC$ to change. Things will continue to change until they finally adopt proven successful models. Like those adopted by professional sports.

the form may change but the underlying greed? university presidents etc. are stoopid phucks

[thedude15]

You do not wanna lower your position if you are the MW.

Even with all the changes we are still the 7th best conference ahead of the CUSA MAC and Sun Belt. The more teams/conferences that drop out the CLOSER the MW gets to the bottom (not good).

[Jack Bauer]

There's really only about 75 or 80 teams that should be at this level.

[flockofsmeagols]

What the f_ck is a Mid Major?
That is not a CFB term. It is a Basketball term.

[Boise fan]

There's really only about 75 or 80 teams that should be at this level.

This statement poses an interesting dilemma.

How many teams from the current big six conferences do you see having a valid reason to remain at this level?

Or perhaps I should ask, how many current big six schools wouldn't make the cut?

[HR_Poke]

This statement poses an interesting dilemma.

How many teams from the current big six conferences do you see having a valid reason to remain at this level?

Or perhaps I should ask, how many current big six schools wouldn't make the cut?

Purdue, Indiana, northwestern... Pretty much the bad big 10 schools, Iowa state, vandy, mississippi state, Colorado Washington state....

[Boise fan]

Purdue, Indiana, northwestern... Pretty much the bad big 10 schools, Iowa state, vandy, mississippi state, Colorado Washington state....

That's what I was thinking too.

But we all know they think that since they belong to the insider's club, they get a free pass.

That's why it won't cut down to seventy or so schools without a serious fight...

[HR_Poke]

That's what I was thinking too.

But we all know they think that since they belong to the insider's club, they get a free pass.

That's why it won't cut down to seventy or so schools without a serious fight...

too many close ties with the dead weight schools, don't think they will ever get cut.

[k5james]

What the f_ck is a Mid Major?
That is not a CFB term. It is a Basketball term.

This. What is it with the WACtards still using that term?

[PackAlum97]

What the f_ck is a Mid Major?
That is not a CFB term. It is a Basketball term.

Just what I was thinking. When I saw the title, I thought he was talking about hoops. The OP makes little sense