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#1 Headbutt

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 09:14 AM

A couple of names in my head for this, but I'm interested in what the masses have to say. Who's getting the love and the pub, and you think it's going to look like a bunch of real stupid gushing when the season winds up?

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 09:17 AM

1. BSU's kicker.

2. Cody Fajardo (sp)

3.UNLV's long snapper

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 10:09 AM

Fajardo

and Fresno State Football

Nevada wasn't impressive under his leadership, and Fresno will not be the second place team after the season is done.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 10:43 AM

sdsu for sure...

I would also say boise is overrated... but still think they are the favorites in the mwc.

but you said player so :-/

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 10:58 AM

sdsu for sure...

I would also say boise is overrated... but still think they are the favorites in the mwc.

but you said player so :-/

SDSU is actually underrated...most of you aren't expecting much so how could they be overrated? :blink:

Back to the topic- most overrated player is Brett Smith


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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:38 AM

SDSU is actually underrated...most of you aren't expecting much so how could they be overrated? :blink:

Back to the topic- most overrated player is Brett Smith


By the media is what I thought was implied.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:46 PM

SDSU is actually underrated...most of you aren't expecting much so how could they be overrated? :blink:

Back to the topic- most overrated player is Brett Smith :huh:


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Smith, a freshman, was 25 of 36 passing for 341 yards for the Cowboys (5-2, 2-0 Mountain West), who scored all of their points en route to a 30-13 halftime lead.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:53 PM

I have to go with Fajardo. He has so much pre-season hype and there's talk that he could be a better and more successful quarterback than Kaepernick was. Im just afraid all this hype will get to his head and he will be pathetic this year. Last year for our basketball team there was talk that the team was going to be dominant and one of the best out west but then got hammered by like 25-30 points at home by a pedestrian Missouri St. team. The fame and acclaim got into their heads and i fear it may happen to Fajardo the first couple of games.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:28 PM

Fajardo, easily. He racked up a ton of Stats against tomato cans and did jack against teams with a pulse, and he's supposed to be some QB to fear that will challenge for all conference?

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

Kellen Moore, bsu fans don't seem to realize he is gone.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

Fajardo, easily. He racked up a ton of Stats against tomato cans and did jack against teams with a pulse, and he's supposed to be some QB to fear that will challenge for all conference?



I don't know....it seems like Nevada played a lot of the same teams other MWC teams played. Look at the QB for Wyoming for instance (he is generally considered one of the other top QB's in the MWC)...if you take an average of the total defense rankings of the teams Wyoming played vs. the teams Nevada played, it's pretty close (Wyoming opponents 70 vs Nevada 79....with Wyoming playing two I-AA schools), with four common opponents (UNM, UNLV, BSU, USU).

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:43 PM

I am not sure where all this so called overhype for Fajardo is coming from. He has received little to no attention from the MW press. All the talk is about Derek Carr.

I expect Fajardo will be better this year because sophomores tend to be better than freshmen but he is still a very young qb.

The preseason all conferences are fun guesses but they are just guesses. Nobody knows how the season will play out..

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:40 PM

Don't know if Cody will end up the most overated but he's got some work to do to live up to some of the preseason hype.
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6. Logan Thomas, Jr. Virginia Tech
7. Geno Smith, Sr. West Virginia
8. EJ Manuel, Sr. Florida State
9. Aaron Murray, Jr. Georgia
10. Tyler Bray, Jr. Tennessee
11. Alex Carder, Sr. Western Michigan
12. Casey Pachall, Jr. TCU
13. Tajh Boyd, Jr. Clemson
14. Keith Price, Jr. Washington
15. Braxton Miller, Soph. Ohio State
16. Cody Fajardo, Soph. Nevada
17. Teddy Bridgewater, Soph. Louisville
18. Derek Carr, Jr. Fresno State
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23. Seth Doege, Sr. Texas Tech
24. MarQueis Gray, Sr. Minnesota
25. Taylor Martinez, Jr. Nebraska
26. Nathan Scheelhaase, Jr. Illinois
27. James Vandenberg, Sr. Iowa
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:06 PM

I am not sure where all this so called overhype for Fajardo is coming from. He has received little to no attention from the MW press. All the talk is about Derek Carr.

I expect Fajardo will be better this year because sophomores tend to be better than freshmen but he is still a very young qb.

The preseason all conferences are fun guesses but they are just guesses. Nobody knows how the season will play out..


Sophs tend to do WORSE actually. It's called a sophomore slump for a reason.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:12 PM



I don't know....it seems like Nevada played a lot of the same teams other MWC teams played. Look at the QB for Wyoming for instance (he is generally considered one of the other top QB's in the MWC)...if you take an average of the total defense rankings of the teams Wyoming played vs. the teams Nevada played, it's pretty close (Wyoming opponents 70 vs Nevada 79....with Wyoming playing two I-AA schools), with four common opponents (UNM, UNLV, BSU, USU).


Fajardo didn't actually play against your entire schedule did he though?

Common opponents...
UNM
Smith - 23-38 212 1td - 12 for 140 2td
Fajardo - 20-25 203 1int - 13 for 86 2td

UNLV
Smith - 10-19 96 2td - 10 for 59
Fajardo - 11-15 93 2int - 9 for 40

BSU
Smith - 17-25 78 1td 1int - 6 for 37
Fajardo - DNP

USU
Smith - 28-46 265 1int - 10 for -4 1td
Fajardo - 19-25 180 - 10 for 45

Now please stop making me defend Brett Smith.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:13 PM

I'm gonna go with Aztec Rising and say Smith. Not that I think he's overrated, I just think his #s won't be as good as last year.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:15 PM

I'm gonna go with Aztec Rising and say Smith. Not that I think he's overrated, I just think his #s won't be as good as last year.

That is a definate fear. Hopefully he breaks the soph slump trend but I doubt it.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:15 PM

I expect Fajardo will be better this year because sophomores tend to be better than freshmen but he is still a very young qb.


You've got it exactly backwards.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:20 PM

too early to say

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:21 PM

Hell if I know. And I won't until I actually see some of these guys play in games.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:22 PM

Couldn't disagree more..Sophomores have experience. Experience is good. But it matters not a whit since none of us have any idea how the season will go..It's good message board fodder though.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:30 PM

The national news media is chalking up the Boise QB situation as immaterial because all Boise does is win, and win with good QB play. That is the kind of treatment usually reserved for traditional powers like Bama and USC.

So with that said, I'll say whichever QB wins the job (Southwick) is overrated.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:33 PM

Fajardo didn't actually play against your entire schedule did he though?

Common opponents...
UNM
Smith - 23-38 212 1td - 12 for 140 2td
Fajardo - 20-25 203 1int - 13 for 86 2td

UNLV
Smith - 10-19 96 2td - 10 for 59
Fajardo - 11-15 93 2int - 9 for 40

BSU
Smith - 17-25 78 1td 1int - 6 for 37
Fajardo - DNP

USU
Smith - 28-46 265 1int - 10 for -4 1td
Fajardo - 19-25 180 - 10 for 45

Now please stop making me defend Brett Smith.


What you can't see from stats is that Fajardo wasn't named the starter until the Fresno game?? He played in bits and pieces of the other games until that game. He also rolled his ankle in the USU game, which is why he missed most of the rest of the season.

I will agree that he does get a lot of pub, in large part though because he's an very accurate passer AND athletic and typically you don't get both in young QB. I personally think he's gonna be much better than last year because he's had a year in the system, and it's now molded to fit his skill set. You'll see many more short passes to the TEs and less read-option.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:34 PM

Fajardo didn't actually play against your entire schedule did he though?

Common opponents...
UNM
Smith - 23-38 212 1td - 12 for 140 2td
Fajardo - 20-25 203 1int - 13 for 86 2td

UNLV
Smith - 10-19 96 2td - 10 for 59
Fajardo - 11-15 93 2int - 9 for 40

BSU
Smith - 17-25 78 1td 1int - 6 for 37
Fajardo - DNP

USU
Smith - 28-46 265 1int - 10 for -4 1td
Fajardo - 19-25 180 - 10 for 45

Now please stop making me defend Brett Smith.


In the bowl game against a ranked opponent, #21 Southern Miss, Cody played really good football. How did Smith fare against ranked opponents?
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