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[quickdraw]

How long before their top 25 team falls into obscurity?
How many more wins in the dance?

My guess is around 12 to 15 years till the next round of conference blood letting. Not too much will happen till then. I would also say 2-3 years before the effects of being in the #25 RPI MBB conference takes it's toll. I giver them 2 wins in the dance in that same period seeing as they only have that many in the history of their BB program and by then Fisher will be home watching his team twice a year on ESPN3 at 10PM.

[seaney]

Hopefully we can beat them at some point over that time period.

[Reb Baron]

I give them 3 years tops before their fan base starts to spontaneously combust.



Of course however long it actually is will feel like an eternity.

[FresnoStateBulldogFan]

How long before their top 25 team falls into obscurity?
How many more wins in the dance?

My guess is around 12 to 15 years till the next round of conference blood letting. Not too much will happen till then. I would also say 2-3 years before the effects of being in the #25 RPI MBB conference takes it's toll. I giver them 2 wins in the dance in that same period seeing as they only have that many in the history of their BB program and by then Fisher will be home watching his team twice a year on ESPN3 at 10PM.

If SDSU does not feel the heat in being in the BW within the first 2-3 years then it wont effect them at all... in fact it probably wont even be a change... Honestly in BB the season really does not count for much until the tourney.

If SDSU can get into the conference which it really shouldnt even be an issue for them to do then they could be the next VCU. Conference matter little in BB it's the autobids that matter.

[Reb Baron]

Conference matter little in BB it's the autobids that matter.

An autobid might get you in but a good seed will get you farther. Not sure the BW has the SOS to generate a good seed, SDSU would have to play (and beat) at least 5 or 6 top 25 teams each year to make up for it.

[Jalapeno]

Less than two weeks to go!

I have a honest question here: Who will eventually be better off down the road?

SDSU?
BYU?

[FresnoStateBulldogFan]

Less than two weeks to go!

I have a honest question here: Who will eventually be better off down the road?

SDSU?
BYU?

I think that is an indivual question... what measures are you using... Is Vandy better off just because they are in the SEC?

BYU is called to spread their message they just happen to have fun playing FB while doing it.

[UNLV2001]

How long before their top 25 team falls into obscurity?
How many more wins in the dance?

My guess is around 12 to 15 years till the next round of conference blood letting. Not too much will happen till then. I would also say 2-3 years before the effects of being in the #25 RPI MBB conference takes it's toll. I giver them 2 wins in the dance in that same period seeing as they only have that many in the history of their BB program and by then Fisher will be home watching his team twice a year on ESPN3 at 10PM.

SDSU might hang on to a decent program thru the rest of Fisher's career.............but once he retires, all bets are off & SDSU could be right back to 4-8 win seasons...............and how long Fisher remains is probably tied to IF he can maintain some semblance of recruiting while in the BWC.........if Fishers see's recruiting starting to slide, expect a quicker retirement announcment.

[UNLV2001]

Less than two weeks to go!

I have a honest question here: Who will eventually be better off down the road?

SDSU?
BYU?

I will go with BYU...............BYU being who they are should always have a certain bottom that can sustain, just as BYU will always have a ceiling that will limit them...............SDSU has the potential for higher highs and lower lows..


As for FB, I think eventually we will see the travel in the BE become a factor for BSU & SDSU.......it's one thing to fly hours and thousands of miles for one game a season, but over the course of a full season might take a little toll.

[bluerules008]

Big West is more respected then the MWC in basketball and the teams are located in much larger TV markets. Throw in a Big East home and home every year and SDSU RPI will be higher then anyone in the MWC without BYU, Utah and SDSU. Just not much left in the MWC now, not one football power after this year and 2 barely top 50 basketball programs who haven't been contenders in 20 years.

SDSU is gaining moving to the Big West. They can offer California recruits plenty of local opportunities for their parents to watch them play and games against actual national powers like teams in the Big East every year.

Only the 3 total dolts that root for UNLV and are checking their mail daily for a PAC 12 invite can't see reality.

[UNLV2001]

Big West is more respected then the MWC in basketball

[Reb Baron]

Big West is more respected then the MWC in basketball and the teams are located in much larger TV markets. Throw in a Big East home and home every year and SDSU RPI will be higher then anyone in the MWC without BYU, Utah and SDSU. Just not much left in the MWC now, not one football power after this year and 2 barely top 50 basketball programs who haven't been contenders in 20 years. SDSU is gaining moving to the Big West. They can offer California recruits plenty of local opportunities for their parents to watch them play and games against actual national powers like teams in the Big East every year. Only the 3 total dolts that root for UNLV and are checking their mail daily for a PAC 12 invite can't see reality.

Too late, this years contest for the most delusional fan base is over, however that is a really great entry for next years contest.

[bluerules008]

Too late, this years contest for the most delusional fan base is over, however that is a really great entry for next years contest.

Example #1 why know one will beat UNLV fans in that contest ever.


You lost BYU, Utah, BSU and SDSU and replaced them with Fresno, SJSU, Hawaii and Utah st. Out of that group only Utah state has a better basketball program then BSU. Yet you morons think the MWC is still a basketball power. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

[SDSU-Alum2003]

If Gonzaga can be a successful program in the WCC I see no reason why SDSU can't replicate the Bulldog's model in the BWC. In particular if SDSU continues to have success in the tourney over the next 2-3 years.

San Diego has over 3 million people and Viejas seats just 12,414. It is already sold out this year. If you don't have season tickets from this point forward you will not get a ticket to a game (of course there is stub hub). Season tickets can be renewed on average between $100-200/ seat. I will never let go of my season tickets and IMO few others will let their season seats lapse at such an affordable price (even in the BW).

In addition, there has been plans submitted to build a new basketball practice facility adjacent to Viejas Arena. IMO this will be built sooner rather than later with the infusion of money from the Big East.

Pair all this with quality OOC games in tournaments, PAC 12 teams and guaranteed Big East teams and IMO SDSU will be just fine.

[LACASEY]

I would not call bluerules008 post delusional, I think his post is just stupid.

[RedheadRebel]

Big West is more respected then the MWC in basketball and the teams are located in much larger TV markets. Throw in a Big East home and home every year and SDSU RPI will be higher then anyone in the MWC without BYU, Utah and SDSU. Just not much left in the MWC now, not one football power after this year and 2 barely top 50 basketball programs who haven't been contenders in 20 years.

SDSU is gaining moving to the Big West. They can offer California recruits plenty of local opportunities for their parents to watch them play and games against actual national powers like teams in the Big East every year.

Only the 3 total dolts that root for UNLV and are checking their mail daily for a PAC 12 invite can't see reality.

Did this guy really just say that the Big West is more respected nationally than the MWC? Didn't one CBS writer recently write "LOL" in his response to SDSU moving to the Big West. Enough said.

And did this same poster also suggest that of the incoming programs only Utah State has a better program than cellar dwellar Boise? Nevada ring a bell fella? Are you drunk Bluerules? Stick to politics, football and snobbery because you just lost all credibility in any future hoops debates.

[RedheadRebel]

Oh, and I don't see SDSU ever sliding back to 4-8 win seasons, but I do think they've put a lower ceiling over their heads with this move. They're just not going to get great seeds waving a Big West flag to the committee. And sure, they can be coached into some great runs by Fisher, but how long does he have left, really? They're going to have to figure a way out of that situation asap if they want basketball to be a national player. Just ask Utah, who's in a power conference, just how fast things can fall apart.

[djv702]

If Gonzaga can be a successful program in the WCC I see no reason why SDSU can't replicate the Bulldog's model in the BWC. In particular if SDSU continues to have success in the tourney over the next 2-3 years.

San Diego has over 3 million people and Viejas seats just 12,414. It is already sold out this year. If you don't have season tickets from this point forward you will not get a ticket to a game (of course there is stub hub). Season tickets can be renewed on average between $100-200/ seat. I will never let go of my season tickets and IMO few others will let their season seats lapse at such an affordable price (even in the BW).

In addition, there has been plans submitted to build a new basketball practice facility adjacent to Viejas Arena. IMO this will be built sooner rather than later with the infusion of money from the Big East.

Pair all this with quality OOC games in tournaments, PAC 12 teams and guaranteed Big East teams and IMO SDSU will be just fine.

If Gonzaga can be a successful program in the WCC I see no reason why SDSU can't replicate the Bulldog's model in the BWC. In particular if SDSU continues to have success in the tourney over the next 2-3 years.

San Diego has over 3 million people and Viejas seats just 12,414. It is already sold out this year. If you don't have season tickets from this point forward you will not get a ticket to a game (of course there is stub hub). Season tickets can be renewed on average between $100-200/ seat. I will never let go of my season tickets and IMO few others will let their season seats lapse at such an affordable price (even in the BW).

In addition, there has been plans submitted to build a new basketball practice facility adjacent to Viejas Arena. IMO this will be built sooner rather than later with the infusion of money from the Big East.

Pair all this with quality OOC games in tournaments, PAC 12 teams and guaranteed Big East teams and IMO SDSU will be just fine.

The WCC is way better than the Big West. You guys don't get quality OOC games now. You think people are going to want to come to SDSU to play you? If you do get a chance for a quality OOC game you will have to travel to their place and win and you guys have never had a quality OOC road win that I can remember. Who is going to replace Fisher when he leaves? I couldn't see a big name or some hot shot young coach that would want to coach in the Big West. You just don't see proven coaches deciding to go to a lower level and coach at a Big West type conference.

[Road Apple]

The WCC is way better than the Big West. You guys don't get quality OOC games now. You think people are going to want to come to SDSU to play you? If you do get a chance for a quality OOC game you will have to travel to their place and win and you guys have never had a quality OOC road win that I can remember. Who is going to replace Fisher when he leaves? I couldn't see a big name or some hot shot young coach that would want to coach in the Big West. You just don't see proven coaches deciding to go to a lower level and coach at a Big West type conference.

The Big West is not all bad: Hawaii, San Diego, Boise State, and probably Fresno State in 2015 will be there and that is nearly half the MWC.

Present Big West schools have Cal State Fullerton, who has14 NCAA Championships; Long Beach State has 4; Hawaii and UC Irvine each have 3 NCAA championships.

As for SDSU not having good competition to play, they will also be playing two Big East teams every year, so they will be "languishing" in pretty good company.

[djv702]

The Big West is not all bad: Hawaii, San Diego, Boise State, and probably Fresno State in 2015 will be there and that is nearly half the MWC.

Present Big West schools have Cal State Fullerton, who has14 NCAA Championships; Long Beach State has 4; Hawaii and UC Irvine each have 3 NCAA championships.

As for SDSU not having good competition to play, they will also be playing two Big East teams every year, so they will be "languishing" in pretty good company.

We are talking about BB. Boise State is a horrible program as is Hawaii. The Big West is like the 20th+ ranked BB conference in america.

[Monty]

how many years until you build a new stadium and automatically get into the pac13

[sig570]

How long before their top 25 team falls into obscurity?
How many more wins in the dance?

My guess is around 12 to 15 years till the next round of conference blood letting. Not too much will happen till then. I would also say 2-3 years before the effects of being in the #25 RPI MBB conference takes it's toll. I giver them 2 wins in the dance in that same period seeing as they only have that many in the history of their BB program and by then Fisher will be home watching his team twice a year on ESPN3 at 10PM.

Honestly it depends on the nBE TV deal if they can secure around $10 mil for football only; then we may see some other schools defect. Also with that money SDSU will be pushing very hard for a western conference, and with $10 mil I think they could do it. If the money comes in at $5 mil or less SDSU is going to be in trouble because I believe it will take them twice as long to get a western division going and by that point there bball program, and fish retiring, will take a huge hit and may require 4 to 6 years to recover. I kind of believe that after Fishers appointed guy becomes head coach (can't remember his name) he will have some epic failures, and then SDSU will ask Hut to become head coach.

Less than two weeks to go!

I have a honest question here: Who will eventually be better off down the road?

SDSU?
BYU?

With the church backing BYU this isn't even a fair question.

[Road Apple]

We are talking about BB. Boise State is a horrible program as is Hawaii. The Big West is like the 20th+ ranked BB conference in america.

Just looking at the BB rankings. Seems the MWC has New Mexico ranked at #19, and your team, UNLV, ranked at #31. The rest of the conference including my team is just chaff and ranked #69 or below. The Big West will have SDSU at #40 and Long Beach State ranked at #51.

If you think Utah State going to be a huge help it might interest you to know they are down at #134 so the differences are not exactly a huge gap that can't be overcome.

[djv702]

Just looking at the BB rankings. Seems the MWC has New Mexico ranked at #19, and your team, UNLV, ranked at #31. The rest of the conference including my team is just chaff and ranked #69 or below. The Big West will have SDSU at #40 and Long Beach State ranked at #51.

If you think Utah State going to be a huge help it might interest you to know they are down at #134 so the differences are not exactly a huge gap that can't be overcome.

What rankings and where did you find this info??

[mysfit]

When it looked like the BW was going to turn down BSU everyone here was singing its praises.

Not that BSU is getting in, the chorus is how bad they are.

It's amazing how hypocritical your hate and envy can make you...............