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MWC teams - vote if on the rise, decline..steady?

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BYU - on the rise

Utah - on the rise

TCU - steady

New Mexico - steady

Air Force - on the decline

CSU - on the rise

Wyoming - steady

UNLV - on the rise

SDSU - on the rise

The way I see it...the MWC in 2008 is increasing in strength rather than declining as a conference. This year, the MWC should be a much better football conference.

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BYU - on the rise

Utah - on the rise

TCU - steady

New Mexico - steady

Air Force - on the decline

CSU - on the rise

Wyoming - steady

UNLV - on the rise

SDSU - on the rise

The way I see it...the MWC in 2008 is increasing in strength rather than declining as a conference. This year, the MWC should be a much better football conference.

Well we can't do much worse on the bottom than we have the last few years. I generally agree with your take but think that TCU could be on the rise if you only consider last year's effort. Their recruiting appears pretty D good.

As for the Aztecs, I think the longer-term outlook is positive but that this year could be a trying one. Game one v. Cal Poly will be a good barometer of how the season will go.

Superman watching BYU's 12th man in action.

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Well we can't do much worse on the bottom than we have the last few years. I generally agree with your take but think that TCU could be on the rise if you only consider last year's effort. Their recruiting appears pretty D good.

As for the Aztecs, I think the longer-term outlook is positive but that this year could be a trying one. Game one v. Cal Poly will be a good barometer of how the season will go.

AC - I think you will crush Cal Poly.

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Well, for us "on the rise" would mean 3 wins. :unsure: I don't think you can count SDSU or UNLV as "on the rise" until there is a threat of a .500 season. Could be for SDSU, highly unlikely for UNLV.

As for the rest, I would agree with your assessment, with the possible exception of putting Utah at holding steady... of course I would be happy to hold steady with their record. I also see CSU as holding steady for this year with a new coach. It would be hard for them not to improve though.

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Steady as she goes. The OOC this year will help determine our direction. I think 5-9 all have potential for improvement in OOC, but the conference battle may shift things around a bit.

Nothing to really say here.....except GO MWC!!

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BYU - steady (with the number of teams on the rise in the MWC....it will making it increasingly difficult for the Y to make any further headway)

Utah - on the rise (for this year anyway...question is, do they have the horses to be as consistant as the TDS?)

TCU - steady (agree here...the Frogs really need to balance out that offense with talent that can keep pace with Patterson's defenses)

New Mexico - steady (??? more like consistant....)

Air Force - on the decline (I have to agree here...with the increase in talent coming into the conference, it's only a matter of time)

CSU - on the rise (steady...not sure how this can be determined yet)

Wyoming - steady (until we can prove otherwise...hopefully this will be the year)

UNLV - on the rise (not with Sanford)

SDSU - on the rise (TBD...just like every other preseason....someday though, someday.....)

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AFA is most certainly on the rise...absolutely no doubt in my mind.

Ok this is interesting, I think that almost everyone has respect/faith in Troy Calhoun but, looking at AFA's graduation losses it also looks like the Falcons will take a step backwards before they can take another step forwards. At least that's how it looks to me.

Do you see AFA as one of he top 3 in the MWC next year?

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I think if the question is from 2007-2008 in terms of wins:

BYU will stay steady at 11wins

Air Force will decrease by 3 to 6 wins

Utah will increase by 1 to 10 wins

UNM will decrease by 2 to 7 wins

TCU will increase by 2 to 10 wins

SDSU will stay staedy at 4 wins

Wyoming will increase by 1 to 6 wins

CSU will stay steady at 3 wins

UNLV will increase by 3 to 5 wins

So Utah, TCU, Wyo and UNLV will increase the number of wins.

UNM and Air force will decrease

BYU, SDSU and CSU will stay steady

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BYU - on the rise

Utah - on the rise

TCU - steady

New Mexico - steady

Air Force - on the decline

CSU - on the rise

Wyoming - steady

UNLV - on the rise

SDSU - on the rise

The way I see it...the MWC in 2008 is increasing in strength rather than declining as a conference. This year, the MWC should be a much better football conference.

Steady? WTF? There continues to be alot of bad distractions/personal reasons issues. The stats prove that tcu is on the decline. 11-1(2005), 11-2 (2006), 8-5 (2007).

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BYU will stay steady at 11wins

Air Force will decrease by 3 to 6 wins

Utah will increase by 1 to 10 wins

UNM will decrease by 2 to 7 wins

TCU will increase by 2 to 10 wins

SDSU will stay staedy at 4 wins

Wyoming will increase by 1 to 6 wins

CSU will stay steady at 3 wins

So based on that you're expecting this kind of season:

BYU 11-2

Utah 10-3

TCU 10-3

New Mexico 7-6

Wyoming 6-6 or 6-7

Air Force 6-6 or 6-7

SDSU 4-8

CSU 3-9

UNLV 5-7

Interesting.

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So based on that you're expecting this kind of season:

BYU 11-2 <<BYU returns their entire offense, from an 11-2 year, defense has performed well for 2 years...looks like they should be still, getting better. A 'program' is being established again>>

Utah 10-3 <<post injuries on a solid, tough team. Should only be getting better>>

TCU 10-3 <<would be on the rise, but if I'm not mistaken, you've lost some key players on offense (QB)....>>

New Mexico 7-6 <<NM seems to be consistently decent, but have lacked that "something" to get them over the hump. I still see that to be the case this year>>

Wyoming 6-6 or 6-7 <<they are building from the lines out...seems they are doing things right...but no real game breakers>>

Air Force 6-6 or 6-7 <<lost so many players that they have to be in a rebuild year. I can't see them taking that kind of a hit, and maintaining the W/L record they did last year>>

SDSU 4-8 <<Long also seems to be emphasizing the bigs up front. New QB...but I get the feel that the Aztecs are starting to turn that corner>>

CSU 3-9 <<tough year last year, and I don't see them staying on the bottom. Good running game coming up this year, I don't see them repeating last years results>>

UNLV 5-7 <<despite the Sanford enigma, UNLV seems to me to be surprising tough. They can get their running game going, and I don't see them being a pushover. They should be better this year>>

Interesting.

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Here's my take plus my expected records before the bowls:

TCU - on the significant rise (12-0)

UNLV - on the significant rise (6-6)

SDSU - on the significant rise (6-6)

Utah - on the rise (11-1)

CSU - on the rise (4-8)

Wyoming - on the slight rise (6-6)

BYU - on the slight decline (10-2)

Air Force - on the significant decline (5-7)

New Mexico - on the collapse (2-10)

Yes, I have my team going undefeated. But, I seriously think that they will. The winner of TCU/Utah heads to a BCS game. UNLV and SDSU will finally stat to realize some potential. CSU and Air Force will have seasons like TCU did last year - lots of very close losses. As for New Mexico, I really think an 0-5 start is realistic. If that happens, it will only get worse.

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Here's my take plus my expected records before the bowls:

TCU - on the significant rise (12-0)

UNLV - on the significant rise (6-6)

SDSU - on the significant rise (6-6)

Utah - on the rise (11-1)

CSU - on the rise (4-8)

Wyoming - on the slight rise (6-6)

BYU - on the slight decline (10-2)

Air Force - on the significant decline (5-7)

New Mexico - on the collapse (2-10)

Yes, I have my team going undefeated. But, I seriously think that they will. The winner of TCU/Utah heads to a BCS game. UNLV and SDSU will finally stat to realize some potential. CSU and Air Force will have seasons like TCU did last year - lots of very close losses. As for New Mexico, I really think an 0-5 start is realistic. If that happens, it will only get worse.

12-0? Are you kidding me? You are such a big homer. You are a tcu azz kisser.

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Borg, you are sorely mistaken about missing pieces on the offense. Andy Dalton was a RS Freshman QB last year. The bulk of the line is back. Our stellar TE is back. Our young receivers return and will become standouts this year. The only question may be at RB. But, we have a stable of guys to work with.

Our biggest loss was DE Chase Ortiz. But, from what I've seen from the ends coming in, we have nothing to worry about.

Our only real question mark may be on special teams.

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Easy there Robert....777 can think whatever he wants to about his team without repurcussions of name calling? What's that about? Aren't we all homers for our respective teams in one way or another?

TCU...if they get by the Sooners...who's to say they WON'T go undefeated?

There are three teams in the MWC this year that have a very realistic chance of breaking down the door to the BCS. TCU happens to be one of those teams.

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Borg, you are sorely mistaken about missing pieces on the offense. Andy Dalton was a RS Freshman QB last year. The bulk of the line is back. Our stellar TE is back. Our young receivers return and will become standouts this year. The only question may be at RB. But, we have a stable of guys to work with.

Our biggest loss was DE Chase Ortiz. But, from what I've seen from the ends coming in, we have nothing to worry about.

Our only real question mark may be on special teams.

Hmmm...thanks for the correction. TCU then stands a real chance of being scarey good. I can't wait for this season to start. There are some good teams this year in the MWC. Should be an exciting, fun race to watch. KILLS me that BYU has to play in Fort Worth this year.

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TCU will be without the player named Massey. Massey was a good football player. There are some questions at running back. Who knows what will happen in the Aaron Brown situation. The tcu qb's usually always end up getting injured. TCU usually has alot of injurys. Im thinking that tcu could go 8-5 or 9-4.

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