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I can't understand why our league is worth 120 million over ten years and the Wac is worth 6 million over 6 years. Are they paying that much because they know no one is watching and advertisers don't want anything to do with the MWC t.v. situation.

Maybe you can explain why were 12 times more valuable than the Wac if your ratings are better.

Go ahead.......

Start anytime.......

We're all waiting.......

I'm sure you can come up with something........

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Well, then the MWC should be miles ahead of the WAC then right?

I mean really, with all that money, I'm shocked the MWC isn't considered a BCS conference!

I got news for you, your value means SQUAT if you're not producing quality teams on the field.

And the fact is the MWC isn't any better or worse than the WAC.

Also, keep in mind that some of our progams are farely young D1 programs.

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Well, then the MWC should be miles ahead of the WAC then right?

I mean really, with all that money, I'm shocked the MWC isn't considered a BCS conference!

I got news for you, your value means SQUAT if you're not producing quality teams on the field.

And the fact is the MWC isn't any better or worse than the WAC.

Also, keep in mind that some of our progams are farely young D1 programs.

You Wac-offs are the ones tossing around the value of our t.v. contract and sighting non-linkable sources to prove that the Wac is a better t.v. option. If that's the case why does every MWC team make more individually than the entire Wac every year from t.v. revenue? They must not base the value of the t.v. deal on the demand for the product then?

May I remind you, we're not on the Wac board trying to convince you that the MWC is a better league with a better t.v. deal. We're on the MWCboard listening to the invasion of the wannabee MWC, Wac-off reject telling us that the Wac is better than the MWC.

I know it must be enfuriating to realize that your league only gets televised on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Monday, and Sunday. That would make me mad as well.

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And the fact is the MWC isn't any better or worse than the WAC.

Why does every single ranking have the MWC ahead of the wac? Why do some rank the wac just above the Sun Belt after the wac's dismal year last year? You would think the bball season and the bowl season would have put the final push on the stake through these wac demon's hearts. I gotta give it to them though, they troll no matter what.

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I can't understand why our league is worth 120 million over ten years and the Wac is worth 6 million over 6 years. Are they paying that much because they know no one is watching and advertisers don't want anything to do with the MWC t.v. situation.

Maybe you can explain why were 12 times more valuable than the Wac if your ratings are better.

Go ahead.......

Start anytime.......

We're all waiting.......

I'm sure you can come up with something........

Goood God who cares Junky....

You attract trolls like flies to well.

Makes the board less interesting imho

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Well, then the MWC should be miles ahead of the WAC then right?

I mean really, with all that money, I'm shocked the MWC isn't considered a BCS conference!

I got news for you, your value means SQUAT if you're not producing quality teams on the field.

And the fact is the MWC isn't any better or worse than the WAC.

Also, keep in mind that some of our progams are farely young D1 programs.

Seriously this post must be a joke. How many BCS teams did the WAC beat this past season again? Heck was the best OOC and bowl win team that the WAC actually beat? Did you beat anyone even ranked in the top 50 in the country? How many actual FBS teams did you beat as a conference in your OOC and Bowl match-ups?

Well we all know the answers to those questions so that must really put your statement, "your value means SQUAT if you're not producing quality teams on the field", into perspective. Basically we can gather from the quality of wins your conference tallied this past season that the WAC's value is less then anything found on the McDonalds dollar menu, and according to your statement the MWC made a fairly good statement on the field by the numerous top 50 wins and the BCS wins we tallied this past season, not to mention our bowl record. Just going from field performance as you suggest the difference is quite large between the WAC and the MWC.

So using your own ideology the MWC is far better then the WAC. You barely beat a small handful of bad to average BCS teams and were blown out in nearly every other BCS match-up. Further more you were rolled in the majority of your bowls. So tell me when did we see a field performance that showed anyone that the WAC was even in the same planet as the MWC? I know you went to a BCS bowl, but it was well known they made it by the skin of their teeth playing a very weak schedule and ended up getting spanked and literally manhandled from the first snap of the ball. Hardly proof. I think your next argument will be your dismantling of 7th place ACC GT team that had no coach and whose interim coach was fired before the game and had no incentive to even win. I know Fresno fans believe that a 7th place ACC team is better then a 5th or 6th place PAC-10 team but seriously the ACC was the weakest or almost the weakest BCS conference in the country the PAC-10 was the second strongest the gap between the two conferences in the rankings was massive. There is a reason why GT didn't finish in the top 50 in the rankings, they played in a weak BCS conference against bad competition, heck even a bad MWC team blew out one of their conferences best teams.

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Still wating to see those great MWC TV ratings.

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Since there aren't any ratings out yet, just look at the 120 million dollar t.v. contract compared to the Wac's 6 million dollar contract and let logic take you home.

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I can't understand why our league is worth 120 million over ten years and the Wac is worth 6 million over 6 years. Are they paying that much because they know no one is watching and advertisers don't want anything to do with the MWC t.v. situation.

Maybe you can explain why were 12 times more valuable than the Wac if your ratings are better.

Go ahead.......

Start anytime.......

We're all waiting.......

I'm sure you can come up with something........

EXPOSURE, EXPOSURE, EXPOSURE.

Its something money cant buy. If you dont think that playing on a channel nobody watches doesnt hurt you you're insane. Why did the WAC have double the amount of draft picks last year? Why will they have more this year? Could it be because they're games are viewed by millions? 1.3 million viewers tuned in for BSU/Hawaii. How many of those viewers were WAC fans? 10%? The MWC's product is ONLY viewed by MWC fans. Your product will not grow if nobody can see it. Is the MWC's networks' money really helping Wyoming? Is it helping them get new fans? Is it helping them bring in better recruits? There's NOTHING the MWC can do that the WAC cant. NOTHING.

Have you seen all the Big 10 coaches complaining about their tv deal killing their EXPOSURE? Michigan St's coach in particular. And they have WAY more fans than the MWC. And they have the BIGGEST benefit of all. Guess what channels are in between ESPN and the NFL network? Thats right, the Big 10 network. Even with all the benefits that the MWC doesnt have, their network is failing.

Look up which team sells more merchandise than ANY school in the WAC or MWC, all it takes is a simple google search.

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Since there aren't any ratings out yet, just look at the 120 million dollar t.v. contract compared to the Wac's 6 million dollar contract and let logic take you home.

Its pretty obvious someone is getting such a bad deal they won't release their ratings.

The ratings are out they are out the minute the game is over. There is only one reason they don't release them.

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Its pretty obvious someone is getting such a bad deal they won't release their ratings.

The ratings are out they are out the minute the game is over. There is only one reason they don't release them.

More worthless drivel. Heres an idea, I will give you the ratings the day you have a decent post showing something of worth. Yeah that is impossible. You have zero to add to this forum.

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Who cares about ratings? Of course th4e WAC has better ratings right now you are on a huge network that is known for sports. The mtn just barely became aviable nationally and we are still waiting to here what all the prices are and so forth. why do you want the ratings? It is in no way a good indication as to what people think of your product. The WAC couldn't even finacially support their own network that is why they take pennys for their product just to make sure they have TV time. the MWC has been in obscurity and still has a ton of work to do with their current deral but finally getting on DirecTV is a huge step, but it also doesn't mean we are right where we want to be. Next season will be even better because the MWC is now in talks with CBS's main TV network, you know the one that is in every home with a TV instead of just 90 million. You can basically guarantee we will have at least a few games on their main network. you can also expect as long as CBS keeps CSTV now CBS sports that it will grow rapidly. they have serious clout and you'll likely see a massive growth in that station in both the number of sets they'll be on next year and their packge tier. Sad thing is this past season even with our lack of coverage BSU, Hawaii, and Fresno lost players to teams in the MWC and some of them bottom tier teams. sure looks like all that TV time made a huge difference in your recruiting didn't it?

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EXPOSURE, EXPOSURE, EXPOSURE.

Its something money cant buy. If you dont think that playing on a channel nobody watches doesnt hurt you you're insane. Why did the WAC have double the amount of draft picks last year? Why will they have more this year? Could it be because they're games are viewed by millions? 1.3 million viewers tuned in for BSU/Hawaii. How many of those viewers were WAC fans? 10%? The MWC's product is ONLY viewed by MWC fans. Your product will not grow if nobody can see it. Is the MWC's networks' money really helping Wyoming? Is it helping them get new fans? Is it helping them bring in better recruits? There's NOTHING the MWC can do that the WAC cant. NOTHING.

Have you seen all the Big 10 coaches complaining about their tv deal killing their EXPOSURE? Michigan St's coach in particular. And they have WAY more fans than the MWC. And they have the BIGGEST benefit of all. Guess what channels are in between ESPN and the NFL network? Thats right, the Big 10 network. Even with all the benefits that the MWC doesnt have, their network is failing.

Look up which team sells more merchandise than ANY school in the WAC or MWC, all it takes is a simple google search.

I've never responded to any of these stupid WAC topic comments but this one is just STUPID STUPID STUPID. I did a simple google search on merchandise sales and yes in 2007-2008 Boise was the top team out of the MWC/WAC but historically BYU and Utah are both ahead of Boise. The only reason Boise is ahead this year is because of the hoopla over the Fiesta Bowl. I am positive that trend will reverse next year.

What you failed to mention is that of the top 75 schools in terms of merchandise sales only three of nine WAC teams are represented. Whereas seven of nine MWC teams are in the top 75 in sales. In fact seven of the top 63 schools in NCAA are in the MWC. There are over 70 schools in the six power conferences who all get tons of money yet seven of the top 63 shools in terms of merchandising sales are in the terribly unexposed MWC which NOBODY outside of a few crazy MWC fans even knows about???

For the life of me, I can't understand how any half way intelligent human being can argue that the WAC is a better overall conference then the MWC. This just isn't true. We aren't 100 times better but the absolute without a doubt truth of the matter is that we are a better conference.

Oh...here's that simple google search link:

http://www.clc.com/clcweb/publishing.nsf/C...kings+2007-2008

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I've never responded to any of these stupid WAC topic comments but this one is just STUPID STUPID STUPID. I did a simple google search on merchandise sales and yes in 2007-2008 Boise was the top team out of the MWC/WAC but historically BYU and Utah are both ahead of Boise. The only reason Boise is ahead this year is because of the hoopla over the Fiesta Bowl. I am positive that trend will reverse next year.

What you failed to mention is that of the top 75 schools in terms of merchandise sales only three of nine WAC teams are represented. Whereas seven of nine MWC teams are in the top 75 in sales. In fact seven of the top 63 schools in NCAA are in the MWC. There are over 70 schools in the six power conferences who all get tons of money yet seven of the top 63 shools in terms of merchandising sales are in the terribly unexposed MWC which NOBODY outside of a few crazy MWC fans even knows about???

For the life of me, I can't understand how any half way intelligent human being can argue that the WAC is a better overall conference then the MWC. This just isn't true. We aren't 100 times better but the absolute without a doubt truth of the matter is that we are a better conference.

Oh...here's that simple google search link:

http://www.clc.com/clcweb/publishing.nsf/C...kings+2007-2008

I forgot to mention one item. The one thing that really surprised me is that the two MWC teams not represented in the top 63 are SDSU and UNLV. I was actually pretty shocked to see this...especially UNLV. They used to have UNLV jerseys EVERYWHERE when I was younger. How is Nevada number 65 and UNLV unranked???

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I forgot to mention one item. The one thing that really surprised me is that the two MWC teams not represented in the top 63 are SDSU and UNLV. I was actually pretty shocked to see this...especially UNLV. They used to have UNLV jerseys EVERYWHERE when I was younger. How is Nevada number 65 and UNLV unranked???

That is pretty shocking that UNLV isn't ranked. But it's painfully obvious why. UNLV football hasn't done much of anything, they just finished their 4th strait 2 win season and only 3 winning seasons since 1990 when their basketball team won the NC. Basketball appears to barely be turning the corner once again. I guess from this perspetive it makes sense why....but still.

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