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Since everone here loves to Bash Fresno on violations....

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Not to be a hater... and I personally try to avoid partaking in the whole " my conference is better than your conference drivel (pillow fight)". I do tend to notice however that quite a few folks, not all folks mind you but quite a few folks on this site love to bash on Fresno for our (all to often) NCAA violations. Be that as it may, I am surprised no one has talked about the recent happenings at New Mexico? I may have missed it or it may be old news, but I came accross it a few minutes ago on ESPN.com. The article is attached. It does not look too serious, but was wondering why it hasn't been mentioned. And a funny thing is that even though this has nothing to do with Fresno State, Fresno ends up in the mix anyway, :blink: I'll tell you what.....

ESPN.com Lobos begin self imposed penalties...

Had this been involving Fresno State, I'm sure a MWC poster would have had it posted by now :D

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Fresno has a reputation that will never be over shadowed by any team, but thanks for your concern! BAND OF THIEVES

Our statisticians run the numbers and find the key to Bulldog basketball success. Surprise! It's crime.

The arrest of former Fresno State basketball player Terry Pettis for the murder of Rene Shannon Abbott got us to thinking: how can one team create so much controversy and still manage to play a decent season?

It's shocking that Fresno State still has a men's basketball program, given the crimes, infractions, and broken rules that have persisted for more than a decade. With the severe CSU budget cuts, how can the university keep funding such a band of rogues?

As it turns out, it just may be that roguish behavior that accounts for the team's (sporadic) success.

Our own team of statisticians carefully scoured old newspaper articles for reports of wrong-doing by the Fresno State team. They then compared delinquent behavior to the team record each year. The results? Bad boys make good players.

Methodology

If it made it into the Fresno Bee, it made it into our analysis. We searched for offenses from the past ten years. Maybe the charges were dropped, maybe the player was acquitted, maybe it was all damn lies- it made no difference to us. For that reason we withheld names (it's also possible we are scared of the basketball team).

Each infraction was given a "severity score," a subjective value from 1 to 9 (with 1 being relatively harmless) which denotes the severity of the offense. For example, "violating team rules" was given a value of 1, while "assault with a deadly weapon" was given a 9. Note that Terry Pettis was not on the team when Abbott was murdered, so that was not counted. For each year, the severity scores of all the infractions committed were summed to come up with the "criminality index."

Lies, damn lies, and statistics: On the X-axis we have the criminality index, our proprietary measure of bad +++-edness. On the Y-axis we have the percentage wins for the season.

Next we looked up the team's record from 1995 to 2004. Results span two coaches, multiple players, several investigations, and NCAA sanctions. We then calculated the percentage wins for each season. Out of the ten seasons we studied, 2001 was the best, with a 26-7 record translating to 79% wins, while 1995 was the worst, with a 13-15 record or 46% wins. We dropped these two extreme seasons from the analysis in order to get a more accurate picture of team performance.

Finally, we performed a sophisticated regression analysis on the percentage wins and criminality index to see if there was any correlation.

Results

A whopping 78% of the Bulldogs' record can be explained by the criminality index! There is a very positive relationship between the two- in other words, the higher the criminality index, the higher the percentage wins.

The model tells us, for example, that if the Bulldog's had a criminality index of 30 (say, two counts of academic fraud, one count of grand theft, four open container violations, and one illegal pre-season workout), the team would win 70% of their games. Think about that the next time one is coming after you with a samurai sword.

Conclusion

The model does not explain why the relationship exists; only that it does. We leave it up to you to explain why the term-paper-buyers, girlfriend-harassers, and property-smashers are so good at basketball.

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Not to be a hater... and I personally try to avoid partaking in the whole " my conference is better than your conference drivel (pillow fight)". I do tend to notice however that quite a few folks, not all folks mind you but quite a few folks on this site love to bash on Fresno for our (all to often) NCAA violations. Be that as it may, I am surprised no one has talked about the recent happenings at New Mexico? I may have missed it or it may be old news, but I came accross it a few minutes ago on ESPN.com. The article is attached. It does not look too serious, but was wondering why it hasn't been mentioned. And a funny thing is that even though this has nothing to do with Fresno State, Fresno ends up in the mix anyway, :blink: I'll tell you what.....

ESPN.com Lobos begin self imposed penalties...

Had this been involving Fresno State, I'm sure a MWC poster would have had it posted by now :D

You're right why would we eat one of our own. We only pick on Fresno State because with all their violations we will have something new to post every week.

Here you go, a rebuttal to your allegations of favoritism.

Click here

Posted the day the story broke, not discussed now because it's old news.

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You're right why would we eat one of our own. We only pick on Fresno State because with all their violations we will have something new to post every week.

Here you go, a rebuttal to your allegations of favoritism.

Click here

Posted the day the story broke, not discussed now because it's old news.

I stand corrected thanks Baron, although the ESPN article was dated 1/5/08, apparently the infractions occurred months back and were indeed discussed on the board.

Fresno has a reputation that will never be over shadowed by any team, but thanks for your concern! BAND OF THIEVES

Our statisticians run the numbers and find the key to Bulldog basketball success. Surprise! It's crime.

The arrest of former Fresno State basketball player Terry Pettis for the murder of Rene Shannon Abbott got us to thinking: how can one team create so much controversy and still manage to play a decent season?

It's shocking that Fresno State still has a men's basketball program, given the crimes, infractions, and broken rules that have persisted for more than a decade. With the severe CSU budget cuts, how can the university keep funding such a band of rogues?

As it turns out, it just may be that roguish behavior that accounts for the team's (sporadic) success.

Our own team of statisticians carefully scoured old newspaper articles for reports of wrong-doing by the Fresno State team. They then compared delinquent behavior to the team record each year. The results? Bad boys make good players.

Methodology

If it made it into the Fresno Bee, it made it into our analysis. We searched for offenses from the past ten years. Maybe the charges were dropped, maybe the player was acquitted, maybe it was all damn lies- it made no difference to us. For that reason we withheld names (it's also possible we are scared of the basketball team).

Each infraction was given a "severity score," a subjective value from 1 to 9 (with 1 being relatively harmless) which denotes the severity of the offense. For example, "violating team rules" was given a value of 1, while "assault with a deadly weapon" was given a 9. Note that Terry Pettis was not on the team when Abbott was murdered, so that was not counted. For each year, the severity scores of all the infractions committed were summed to come up with the "criminality index."

Lies, damn lies, and statistics: On the X-axis we have the criminality index, our proprietary measure of bad +++-edness. On the Y-axis we have the percentage wins for the season.

Next we looked up the team's record from 1995 to 2004. Results span two coaches, multiple players, several investigations, and NCAA sanctions. We then calculated the percentage wins for each season. Out of the ten seasons we studied, 2001 was the best, with a 26-7 record translating to 79% wins, while 1995 was the worst, with a 13-15 record or 46% wins. We dropped these two extreme seasons from the analysis in order to get a more accurate picture of team performance.

Finally, we performed a sophisticated regression analysis on the percentage wins and criminality index to see if there was any correlation.

Results

A whopping 78% of the Bulldogs' record can be explained by the criminality index! There is a very positive relationship between the two- in other words, the higher the criminality index, the higher the percentage wins.

The model tells us, for example, that if the Bulldog's had a criminality index of 30 (say, two counts of academic fraud, one count of grand theft, four open container violations, and one illegal pre-season workout), the team would win 70% of their games. Think about that the next time one is coming after you with a samurai sword.

Conclusion

The model does not explain why the relationship exists; only that it does. We leave it up to you to explain why the term-paper-buyers, girlfriend-harassers, and property-smashers are so good at basketball.

To axe, congratulations on New Mexico's great bowl victory! :)

Bulldog Football! Putting in Work!

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If you google fresno state infractions you get over 40,000 results lol http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&...-8&oe=utf-8

Strange, I got 6800 results using your link. Wonder why that would be???

If you try and tie it down a little better, +"fresno state" +"NCAA infractions" gets you 463 results. Or it least it got me that many.

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After deleting some of my posts and closing the offending SteveAztec thread, a couple of elites have been able to open it long enough to respond to me anyway.  And since I can’t respond on a closed thread, here is my response…

Other than the initial inquiry, this has never been about letting Steve post again; I doubt that he even wants to post here.  My complaint is about his treatment on this board and the failure of admins to control attacks on him – and worse, to sometimes participate in those attacks.

Steve was first banned on the SDSU board.  When he was banned, it was a sufficiently controversial that they started what became an 8 page thread on the topic to justify the decision (https://aztecmesa.proboards.com/thread/9747/steve-aztec-longer-member-board).  It is clear that Steve had support in the community and there was some criticism for the Board Administrators for having failed to “expel the dozens of people who've been taunting him.”  (And take a look at the thread that I bumped; initially it was supporters happy about Steve getting a radio show.  Then the haters arrived.)

I can’t say if Steve took it too far in response, but I will say that he denies most of various accusations and adds important missing context to others.  But I wasn’t a party to any of the events and can’t say who is in the right and who is in the wrong.  And I have to admit that if half of what has been said about him is true, depending on context, I might well have banned him too.  Or more likely I might have banned those who were taunting him.  (Steve had lost a brother-in-law to suicide and there have been a number of memes of people blowing their brains out, as well as posts blaming Steve or his sister for the suicide – and admins apparently let it go.)

I am in no position to evaluate the truth or falsity of the laundry list of claims made on this board about how Steve responded to all this.  My complaint, however, is about his treatment on this board.  I may be wrong, but his banning on this board at least appears to have been less about what he did on this board and more a carryover from the SDSU banning.  The same taunting continued – more suicide memes – apparently ignored by the admins. Utenation supposedly posted the first and it is explained away because he didn’t know about the suicide.  But was the post taken down?  Was an apology issued?   Indeed, for years, admins on this board have allowed Steve to be vilified based on little more than anecdotal hearsay.  This is a privately owned board, but it is not a private board – anyone can join.  And more than that, It’s not an anonymous board; people know who Steve.  You have a duty to protect your posters from libelous statements and unproven allegations -- especially when, having been banned themselves, they have no ability to defend themselves.

Even Retrofade (who says he’s not a mod but can post to closed threads) put up a “blowing his brains out” meme several years ago.  He knew that Steve lost his brother-in-law to suicide, and he now says that “Steve is a mentally disturbed individual”, which is libelous by the way, but excuses his meme as nothing more than being in “poor taste”.  Apparently it is okay with the board's current admins to taunt a "mentally disturbed person" because the post has never been taken down.  The poster has never been admonished.  And there has been no apology, unless you consider "he deserved it" to be an apology.

In my view, you owe Steve an apology for the treatment that you have tolerated and, in some cases, engaged in.  A former Aztec board went out of business when sued (not by Steve).  It won’t be the last one.  You need to fix this.  You need to administer your board and prevent libelous and incendiary attacks -- hearsay-- on posters. 

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This is a ridiculous thread. You can get a lot of results or very little depending on how you structure a search. And the numbers change by the minute.

The infractions at UNM are minor infractions committed by two coaches no longer on the staff. Long is not implicated. Only one player involved every suited up, if I remember correctly. UNM has self-imposed some sanctions that will be announced this week. This was announced months ago before the beginning of FB season. No one is covering up anything. It is just old news. The only recent news is UNM has submitted its report on the matter and its self-imposed sanctions.

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