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Top 10 impact games

John Walters breaks down the big matchups to determine next national champion

Who will be celebrating after BCS title game in Miami on Jan. 8?

9/6: BYU at Washington

Brigham Young at Washington

You're laughing. Why are you laughing? The Cougars, currently riding the nation's longest win streak (10 games), have finished 11-2 the past two seasons. Quarterback Max Hall was the Mountain West Conference Player of the Year in 2007 and 243-pound tailback Harvey Unga the MWC Frosh of the Year - and both were first-year starters.

The offensive line, by the way, averages 6'6", 330 pounds.

So why do I have this game on my list as opposed to the Sept. 13 vengeance fest versus UCLA (the Bruins and Cougars played twice last season, splitting the series)? Because that one is in Provo, where BYU has won 12 straight.

The Huskies, meanwhile, beat Boise State and figuratively-ranked-No. 1-for-two-hours Cal in Seattle last autumn, while also coming up just a field goal shy against USC (the Huskies also led 28-7 at Hawaii before losing). Sophomore quarterback Jake Locker is a stud.

If the Cougars beat U-Dub and UCLA on consecutive weekends, it's all downhill for Bronco Mendenhall's team.

Other key games

11/22: Brigham Young at Utah

The Cougars may just be undefeated when they step on the team bus for the 45-mile journey up I-15 to face the arch-rival Utes, who won eight of their last nine in 2007. Utah's Kyle Whittingham is the only coach we know who had the bird openly flipped at him during a game last season (by Wyoming's Joe Glenn, who for some reason took umbrage at an onside kick perpetrated in the midst of a 50-0 loss).

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Which game will have the biggest impact in determing which team reaches BCS title game and prevails?

#20 BYU 14, #3 Oklahoma 13

#18 BYU 26, #21 Utah 23

#14 BYU 44, #16 Oregon State 20

#10 BYU 82, Utah 69

#14 BYU 71, Utah 51

#16 BYU 99, Florida 92

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I wonder if there is only one undefeated BCS team, say Georgia, and everyone else has two losses, except 11-1 Ohio State (loss to USC) and 12-0 BYU, who gets the second invite? Normally I would say Ohio State hands down, but with the back lash against the Buckeyes for tanking the last two years versus the SEC in the National Championship, and if their only loss is their only OOC challenge, I wonder if a weak Big Ten could lead to the Cougars getting the nod. It would be interesting to watch the national media try to handle it. If the Big Ten struggles this year and if USC beats Ohio State (unless it is a total nail biter, which I doubt), I could see a 1-loss OSU team getting passed over.

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Ohio State. No question in my mind. They'd take a 2 loss USC before an undefeated Byu, Utah, or Fresno State. A non-bcs school in the bcs championship game? That'll be the day.

I wonder if there is only one undefeated BCS team, say Georgia, and everyone else has two losses, except 11-1 Ohio State (loss to USC) and 12-0 BYU, who gets the second invite? Normally I would say Ohio State hands down, but with the back lash against the Buckeyes for tanking the last two years versus the SEC in the National Championship, and if their only loss is their only OOC challenge, I wonder if a weak Big Ten could lead to the Cougars getting the nod. It would be interesting to watch the national media try to handle it. If the Big Ten struggles this year and if USC beats Ohio State (unless it is a total nail biter, which I doubt), I could see a 1-loss OSU team getting passed over.

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If there is EVER a year for it to happen this is it. Of course BYU would need a lot of help - namely BCS teams dropping left and right like last season. Since the inception of the BCS no non-AQ program has ever been ranked so highly in the preseason - maybe we should wait for the official polls but it's looking that way right now. If BYU goes undefeated the entire season as teams around them drop I don't see why it's impossible for them to do it. That said, it's extremely improbable but who's ever had a better shot? Utah didn't start this high and made it to #5 (?) in the BCS polls when there were multiple undefeated BCS teams. Impossible? Nope. Improbable? Extremely. I still don't even see the Cougars making it through the season unscathed so it's a moot point.

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Ohio State. No question in my mind. They'd take a 2 loss USC before an undefeated Byu, Utah, or Fresno State. A non-bcs school in the bcs championship game? That'll be the day.

There is a chance, only if BYU starts the year in the top 15 in both polls and the MWC has an overall good year against their OOC opponets. Six strong MWC teams with winning record could help their cause. Also, if teams like Fresno, Boise or Tulsa have good years that would help a lot. More non-bcs teams in the top 25 the better for BYU.

It's only a matter of time....

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I've stated before that I think it would take two undefeated years in a row. Case in point, Utah 2005. If Oscar stays, and Alex stays with him, and Utah goes undefeated again, then I think they would have gotten a real look. BSU 2007 may have been the same way. Except, Z was gone, so were a lot of other guys. The face of the team other than IJ was a lot different.

Now, I agree with norcal. I don't think BYU will be undefeated this year. But, if, just if, they are and then have Hall/Unga/Collie et al back the next year. Well, then maybe.

Take note boys, thats two BYU fans on this thread that have said they don't think the Cougs will run the table. Do we hope it? yea, but do I think it, nope. Shoot man I'll bet you Rebel fans are hoping for an undefeated season.

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I agree. But even if they did, I couldn't see them getting at least a #2 BCS ranking neded for the title game. I'd love to see it (although it being Byu would sour it a little) but don't think it ever will.

I still don't even see the Cougars making it through the season unscathed so it's a moot point.

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Ohio State. No question in my mind. They'd take a 2 loss USC before an undefeated Byu, Utah, or Fresno State. A non-bcs school in the bcs championship game? That'll be the day.

This question came to mind as I was reading the article linked. The first game was BYU @ Washington and the second was Ohio State @ USC. With a weak Big Ten and how good USC should be, this will probably be Ohio State toughest game of the year. If USC takes care of them, and then they march through the Big Ten, there could really be a movement to keep Ohio State from appearing in their third straight NC. If they get showed up in their only OOC challenge, and the Big Ten is weak, then a lot of people will not want to see them in the NC and will looking for someone else more suitable. Some people might actually rather see any other team, even BYU, than Ohio State again. If BYU rolls in with the nation's longest winning streak, they could be the ones. If Ohio State plays USC really close and it comes down to late game heroics then the Buckeyes would probably get the nod, but if they look out matched it wouldn't shock me. BYU's schedule may not be as good as 2004's Utah, but it is better than 2006 Boise State and 2007 Hawaii.

2004 Utah Preseason #20. OOC: Texas A&M, @Arizona, @ Utah State, UNC

2006 Boise State Preseason #32. OOC: Sac State, Oregon State, @Wyoming, @Utah

2007 Hawaii Preseason #23. OOC: Northern Colorado, @ UNLV, Charleston Southern, Washington

2008 BYU Pre-Preseason #14. OOC: Northern Iowa, @ Washington, UCLA, @ Utah State

I'm not predicting anything, I am just saying that they are better positioned than the others have been. Plus my comment was really more about Ohio State backlash.

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Oh I agree. The Cougars are in a GREAT position for a BCS game. Just not the Title game

This question came to mind as I was reading the article linked. The first game was BYU @ Washington and the second was Ohio State @ USC. With a weak Big Ten and how good USC should be, this will probably be Ohio State toughest game of the year. If USC takes care of them, and then they march through the Big Ten, there could really be a movement to keep Ohio State from appearing in their third straight NC. If they get showed up in their only OOC challenge, and the Big Ten is weak, then a lot of people will not want to see them in the NC and will looking for someone else more suitable. Some people might actually rather see any other team, even BYU, than Ohio State again. If BYU rolls in with the nation's longest winning streak, they could be the ones. If Ohio State plays USC really close and it comes down to late game heroics then the Buckeyes would probably get the nod, but if they look out matched it wouldn't shock me. BYU's schedule may not be as good as 2004's Utah, but it is better than 2006 Boise State and 2007 Hawaii.

2004 Utah Preseason #20. OOC: Texas A&M, @Arizona, @ Utah State, UNC

2006 Boise State Preseason #32. OOC: Sac State, Oregon State, @Wyoming, @Utah

2007 Hawaii Preseason #23. OOC: Northern Colorado, @ UNLV, Charleston Southern, Washington

2008 BYU Pre-Preseason #14. OOC: Northern Iowa, @ Washington, UCLA, @ Utah State

I'm not predicting anything, I am just saying that they are better positioned than the others have been. Plus my comment was really more about Ohio State backlash.

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I agree. But even if they did, I couldn't see them getting at least a #2 BCS ranking neded for the title game. I'd love to see it (although it being Byu would sour it a little) but don't think it ever will.

I don't think it's likely at all but I won't go to absolutes either. I really think if Utah & TCU have the kind of season we're all hoping for and Top 10 BCS teams drop like flies as happened last year then it's entirely possible. Let's not forget that in 2004 the MWC was quite weak and Utah still made the top 6 despite multiple undefeated AQ teams. Throw a substantial SOS lift into the computer polls and AQ teams dropping like flies I don't think it's unreasonable to squeak into a #2 spot.

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Tell that to Georgia/Usc fans.

Throw a substantial SOS lift into the computer polls and AQ teams dropping like flies I don't think it's unreasonable to squeak into a #2 spot.

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There might be a way for a non bcs in the title game. The non bcs team must go undefeated for 2 consecutive years. The non bcs team would have had to participated(in its 13-0 season) in a bcs game. The strenght of schedule is a little important. The non bcs team obviously has to start/finish with a good ranking.

The bs bcs would want a non bcs to be humiliated on tv. The bs bcs would probably consider a 25-0 team. The bs bcs would want to match them up with a very tuff bcs team. There could be alot of controversy created if the bcs team wins. The bs bcs would probably say that they are splitting the national championship. You all know that the non bcs has been screwed by the bcs. The bs bcs has been screwed by the bs bcs. The bs bcs would probably have to go to a playoff system.

The bs bcs is a popularity contest. The non bcs team would probably have to have a strong fan base. The bs bcs could invite the non bcs team (to a bs bcs league) if they see that the team continues to bust the bs bcs.

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you know you guys all make good points but the reason i believe that Utah was ranked so high in 2004 because these guys watch i mean how many games did Alex smith and the 1st stringers play past the third quarter we dominated people and I think if you want to play in a National Championship coming from a non bcs confrence you have to really beat people kinda of like we did to wyoming last year you just cant let up keep puttin those numbers on the scoreboard thats just my 2 cents

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you know you guys all make good points but the reason i believe that Utah was ranked so high in 2004 because these guys watch i mean how many games did Alex smith and the 1st stringers play past the third quarter we dominated people and I think if you want to play in a National Championship coming from a non bcs confrence you have to really beat people kinda of like we did to wyoming last year you just cant let up keep puttin those numbers on the scoreboard thats just my 2 cents

There's still an element of "moving up by default" however as the teams ranked ahead of you lose. I don't recall Utah jumping over any BCS teams higher than them in the rankings (where the BCS team didn't lose anyway) during their run because of their domination of teams. I could be wrong.

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Byu hasent beaten any ranked OOC Teams. BYU was blown out by tulsa. The non bcs has no chance at the national championship. Byu is just being arrogant! National championship! :lol:

What has byu been smoking? LOL!

Just relax and think your comment through all of the way before posting. Did BYU write this article? Is 8 points a "blow out"?

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Just relax and think your comment through all of the way before posting. Did BYU write this article? Is 8 points a "blow out"?

If you can Tulsa a Blow out id say the last Two years vs TCU have been blow outs as well.

Thay also lost in Double OT at Boston College...

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you know you guys all make good points but the reason i believe that Utah was ranked so high in 2004 because these guys watch i mean how many games did Alex smith and the 1st stringers play past the third quarter we dominated people and I think if you want to play in a National Championship coming from a non bcs confrence you have to really beat people kinda of like we did to wyoming last year you just cant let up keep puttin those numbers on the scoreboard thats just my 2 cents

Agreed. You have to beat people like Utah did in 2004. You also have to play somebody,which Utah didn't do in 2004. It's going to take a combination of a difficult schedule with an undefeated season for a MWC team to make the MNC game.

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I feel like a broken record but the only way this scenario plays out is to have #s 1, 2, and 3 in the MWC end the season 12-0, 11-1, and 10-2 with the losses all being to the higher ranked MWC teams. In this scenario whoever runs the table would be a very strong candidate for the big game be it TCU, Utah or BYU.

With BYU playing UCLA and Washington, Utah playing Michigan and Oregon State and TCU playing Oklahoma and Stanford those would be very legitimate wins. If all 3 teams were 4-0 OOC and 8-0, 7-1, and 6-2 in MWC play all three teams would be legitimate top 5-15 teams. A possible 11-0BYU at 11-0 Utah in late November would be a game with National Title game implications (I'd like a ticket to that game please!)

Also helpful would be for UCLA, Washington, Oregon State, Stanford, Michigan, and Oklahoma to have gangbuster seasons after their MWC losses. The MWC #s 4-6 need to be bowl eligible and the bottom 3 need to win 1-2 OOC games each to give some oomph to the MWC's OOC results.

Also helpful would be for all the AQ teams to have at least 1 loss and very helpful for multiple conference champs with 2 or more losses.

Basically we'd need all the stars to line up and a perfect storm to run through the MWC for our champ to land in the MNC game but it is possible and one I'd love to see!

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