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On this day 16 years ago,Fresno State puts up 94 POINTS and cruises to the victory over New Mexico 94-17. Talk about running up the score. PTI had it on in their 'happy happy' segment.

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On this day 16 years ago,Fresno State puts up 94 POINTS and cruises to the victory over New Mexico 94-17. Talk about running up the score. PTI had it on in their 'happy happy' segment.

Fresno didn't run up the score and nobody ever claimed that they did. Basically, New Mexico got discouraged and more or less quit.

Fresno had the ball inside the two and could have hit 100 but chose instead to take a knee.

At least that is the way that I understand it, anyway. I'm sure some UNM fans will correct me if they have a conflicting recollection.

Yoda out...

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After deleting some of my posts and closing the offending SteveAztec thread, a couple of elites have been able to open it long enough to respond to me anyway.  And since I can’t respond on a closed thread, here is my response…

Other than the initial inquiry, this has never been about letting Steve post again; I doubt that he even wants to post here.  My complaint is about his treatment on this board and the failure of admins to control attacks on him – and worse, to sometimes participate in those attacks.

Steve was first banned on the SDSU board.  When he was banned, it was a sufficiently controversial that they started what became an 8 page thread on the topic to justify the decision (https://aztecmesa.proboards.com/thread/9747/steve-aztec-longer-member-board).  It is clear that Steve had support in the community and there was some criticism for the Board Administrators for having failed to “expel the dozens of people who've been taunting him.”  (And take a look at the thread that I bumped; initially it was supporters happy about Steve getting a radio show.  Then the haters arrived.)

I can’t say if Steve took it too far in response, but I will say that he denies most of various accusations and adds important missing context to others.  But I wasn’t a party to any of the events and can’t say who is in the right and who is in the wrong.  And I have to admit that if half of what has been said about him is true, depending on context, I might well have banned him too.  Or more likely I might have banned those who were taunting him.  (Steve had lost a brother-in-law to suicide and there have been a number of memes of people blowing their brains out, as well as posts blaming Steve or his sister for the suicide – and admins apparently let it go.)

I am in no position to evaluate the truth or falsity of the laundry list of claims made on this board about how Steve responded to all this.  My complaint, however, is about his treatment on this board.  I may be wrong, but his banning on this board at least appears to have been less about what he did on this board and more a carryover from the SDSU banning.  The same taunting continued – more suicide memes – apparently ignored by the admins. Utenation supposedly posted the first and it is explained away because he didn’t know about the suicide.  But was the post taken down?  Was an apology issued?   Indeed, for years, admins on this board have allowed Steve to be vilified based on little more than anecdotal hearsay.  This is a privately owned board, but it is not a private board – anyone can join.  And more than that, It’s not an anonymous board; people know who Steve.  You have a duty to protect your posters from libelous statements and unproven allegations -- especially when, having been banned themselves, they have no ability to defend themselves.

Even Retrofade (who says he’s not a mod but can post to closed threads) put up a “blowing his brains out” meme several years ago.  He knew that Steve lost his brother-in-law to suicide, and he now says that “Steve is a mentally disturbed individual”, which is libelous by the way, but excuses his meme as nothing more than being in “poor taste”.  Apparently it is okay with the board's current admins to taunt a "mentally disturbed person" because the post has never been taken down.  The poster has never been admonished.  And there has been no apology, unless you consider "he deserved it" to be an apology.

In my view, you owe Steve an apology for the treatment that you have tolerated and, in some cases, engaged in.  A former Aztec board went out of business when sued (not by Steve).  It won’t be the last one.  You need to fix this.  You need to administer your board and prevent libelous and incendiary attacks -- hearsay-- on posters. 

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so you're saying putting up 94 and taking a knee is not running it up. ya think they would of called off the dogs at, say, 56-17, but put 38 more just to be sure of the win <_< . I'd like to see that box score. Can you prvide one?

Fresno didn't run up the score and nobody ever claimed that they did. Basically, New Mexico got discouraged and more or less quit.

Fresno had the ball inside the two and could have hit 100 but chose instead to take a knee.

At least that is the way that I understand it, anyway. I'm sure some UNM fans will correct me if they have a conflicting recollection.

Yoda out...

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Fresno didn't run up the score and nobody ever claimed that they did. Basically, New Mexico got discouraged and more or less quit.

Fresno had the ball inside the two and could have hit 100 but chose instead to take a knee.

At least that is the way that I understand it, anyway. I'm sure some UNM fans will correct me if they have a conflicting recollection.

Yoda out...

Yoda your full of it. Fresno State under Sweeny the Weenie did try to hit 100 and in fact went for it 3 times inside the 2 yard line. To be honest I believe the RB made it in at least twice but the officials didn't allow it. Funny I was talking to Mike Roberts (voice of the Lobos) about this game and he agrees that indeed Sweeney the Weenie did get 2 into the end zone that the refs. didn't allow. One thing is for sure, THEY DID NOT TAKE A KNEE!

We got our revenge a year later when Sweenie the Weenie with Trent Dilfer at the helm came into Albuquerque ranked. "The Weenie" was guaranteeing victory and my Lobo upset Sweenie and knocked them out of the Top 20.

What was wildl was the radio station I worked at during that time got all the fans frothing at the mouth and everyone brought weenies to the game and were pelting the Fresno St. players and coaches with hot dogs. Nothing is funnier than seeing a weenie explode on a Fresno helmet. People were going to the concession stands and buying hot dogs just to throw. Now obviously we don't condone that sort of behavior but it was insane watching it.

Yoda you're out alright.

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so you're saying putting up 94 and taking a knee is not running it up. ya think they would of called off the dogs at, say, 56-17, but put 38 more just to be sure of the win <_< . I'd like to see that box score. Can you prvide one?

I don't believe the Dogs threw a pass in the second half......

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Yoda your full of it. Fresno State under Sweeny the Weenie did try to hit 100 and in fact went for it 3 times inside the 2 yard line. To be honest I believe the RB made it in at least twice but the officials didn't allow it. Funny I was talking to Mike Roberts (voice of the Lobos) about this game and he agrees that indeed Sweeney the Weenie did get 2 into the end zone that the refs. didn't allow. One thing is for sure, THEY DID NOT TAKE A KNEE!

We got our revenge a year later when Sweenie the Weenie with Trent Dilfer at the helm came into Albuquerque ranked. "The Weenie" was guaranteeing victory and my Lobo upset Sweenie and knocked them out of the Top 20.

What was wildl was the radio station I worked at during that time got all the fans frothing at the mouth and everyone brought weenies to the game and were pelting the Fresno St. players and coaches with hot dogs. Nothing is funnier than seeing a weenie explode on a Fresno helmet. People were going to the concession stands and buying hot dogs just to throw. Now obviously we don't condone that sort of behavior but it was insane watching it.

Yoda you're out alright.

FS led 66-7 at the half and as stated, did not attempt a pass in the 2nd half...FS racked up close to 500 yards rushing

as far as your story of New Mexico getting revenge the next year is not true...the series begain in 88 as a non-conference game, FS won 68-21...in 89 NM got revenge knocking off 10-0 No. 23 FS 45-22 but Dilfer was not the quarterback, he was still in HS...Barsotti was a So. starter

FS won in 90 in Fresno 24-17 and the the 94-17 was the last of the OOC series because FS joined the WAC in 92 and hosted UNM for the third straight year and won 31-28, FS won in Burque 41-24 in 93 but NM got revenge inside Bulldog Stadium in 94 dominating FS 49-32...FS won the last two meetings in 95 (home) and 98 (away)

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