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Hopefully the two AD's can work something out. This game should be played every year. I miss the old shootouts. Does anybody remember the game with Dilfer (FSU) and Faulk (SDSU). Back and forth with like three touchdowns in the final minute. I think Fresno won that one, but man those were some fun games to watch. I think it's pretty obvious that Nevada-UNLV and Fresno-SDST should be in the same conference. It would be good for everybody. Adding Boise makes sense too - it fits the conference footprint and adds to football. Yeah, I know you nay sayers will say splitting the pie 12 ways instead of 9 is SO HORRIBLE. Well, when I did the math 16 million divided by 9 schools is 1.77 for each school. Divide the same 16 million by 12 schools and you would ONLY be getting 1.33 miliion per school. That's only 440,000 less. REALLY THAT'S ALL?!?! That's what's keeping a great conference with great rivalries apart. That's why the PAC is so strong. Even when Oregon St is down they still have the Oregon game. Stanford not so great these last couple of years, but you can bet their fans get up for THE BIG GAME. Think about that now make both teams undefeated and the spotlight of the country would be on us. A lot of you MWC fans take your rivalries for granted - which is why I believe they SPLIT in the WAC in the first place. No matter how good or bad BYU's team is I bet their fans always know what week and what stadium the BYU-UTAH game is. How about the WYOMING-CSU game. NONE OF US ARE GETTING INTO THE BCS ANYTIME SOON........LET'S AT LEAST MAKE THE MOST OF IT AND HAVE SOME FUN. I say give each team a natural rival and let's play. Fresno's last game is NMST and SDSU's last game is TCU. This thing could be a whole lot better.

Fresno State Bulldogs Football
 
First season: 1921
Stadium: Bulldog Stadium
Year built: 1980
Seating capacity: 41,031
Location: Fresno, California
Conference: Mountain West
Division: West
Past conferences:
  • California Coast Conference (1922–1924)
  • Northern California Athletic Conference (1925–1940)
  • California Collegiate Athletic Association (1939–1950, 1953–1968)
  • Big West Conference (1969–1991)
  • Western Athletic Conference (1992–2012)
All-time record: 565–387–27 (.591)
Bowl record: 12–12 (.500)
Conference titles: 26
Consensus All-Americans: 2
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Hopefully the two AD's can work something out. This game should be played every year. I miss the old shootouts. Does anybody remember the game with Dilfer (FSU) and Faulk (SDSU). Back and forth with like three touchdowns in the final minute. I think Fresno won that one, but man those were some fun games to watch. I think it's pretty obvious that Nevada-UNLV and Fresno-SDST should be in the same conference. It would be good for everybody. Adding Boise makes sense too - it fits the conference footprint and adds to football. Yeah, I know you nay sayers will say splitting the pie 12 ways instead of 9 is SO HORRIBLE. Well, when I did the math 16 million divided by 9 schools is 1.77 for each school. Divide the same 16 million by 12 schools and you would ONLY be getting 1.33 miliion per school. That's only 440,000 less. REALLY THAT'S ALL?!?! That's what's keeping a great conference with great rivalries apart. That's why the PAC is so strong. Even when Oregon St is down they still have the Oregon game. Stanford not so great these last couple of years, but you can bet their fans get up for THE BIG GAME. Think about that now make both teams undefeated and the spotlight of the country would be on us. A lot of you MWC fans take your rivalries for granted - which is why I believe they SPLIT in the WAC in the first place. No matter how good or bad BYU's team is I bet their fans always know what week and what stadium the BYU-UTAH game is. How about the WYOMING-CSU game. NONE OF US ARE GETTING INTO THE BCS ANYTIME SOON........LET'S AT LEAST MAKE THE MOST OF IT AND HAVE SOME FUN. I say give each team a natural rival and let's play. Fresno's last game is NMST and SDSU's last game is TCU. This thing could be a whole lot better.

I know the two AD's are talking. Lets hope it comes about.

And ohhh, on that Dilfer/Faulk battle. If you are talking about the 49-45 (approx) game at San Diego State that Fresno State won......Faulk left the game after about 4 carries sometime in the first quarter with an injury. Great game though. Wrong team won. :angry: :D

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Even in different conferences cant SDSU and FSU play on rivalry weekend. I mean the MWC has 9 teams and so does the WAC. It would be easy to schedule i would think.

I would think so and rivalry weekend would be the one to do it.

No reason for this to not happen.

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I know the two AD's are talking. Lets hope it comes about.

And ohhh, on that Dilfer/Faulk battle. If you are talking about the 49-45 (approx) game at San Diego State that Fresno State won......Faulk left the game after about 4 carries sometime in the first quarter with an injury. Great game though. Wrong team won. :angry::D

Yep....That's the one. I believe this will happen again, but why not take it out of the AD's hands and make it a CONFERENCE RIVALRY GAME, the last one of every season. Those old WAC games sure were some crazy shootouts. Don't not add 3 great rivalry teams to the conference because it wouldn't be good enough to get in the BCS. Don't not do it because it would add greater parity. Don't not do it because each school would only save $440,000. DO ADD THREE for GREAT RIVALRIES, MORE EXPOSURE, BETTER RECRUITING, and FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. You nay sayers will also say, but a championship game isn't always good, look at Texas and Oklahoma. I say any conference that is a conference should end with a CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It sounds better, it looks better, and it's a heck of a lot more fun. Each team plays their RIVALRY game the last week and that all leads into the CHAMP GAME hype. It's the last game of the season and adds even more HYPE to two of your best conference teams. It's almost like a basketball season without a conference tourney........it just sucks.

Fresno State Bulldogs Football
 
First season: 1921
Stadium: Bulldog Stadium
Year built: 1980
Seating capacity: 41,031
Location: Fresno, California
Conference: Mountain West
Division: West
Past conferences:
  • California Coast Conference (1922–1924)
  • Northern California Athletic Conference (1925–1940)
  • California Collegiate Athletic Association (1939–1950, 1953–1968)
  • Big West Conference (1969–1991)
  • Western Athletic Conference (1992–2012)
All-time record: 565–387–27 (.591)
Bowl record: 12–12 (.500)
Conference titles: 26
Consensus All-Americans: 2
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Yep....That's the one. I believe this will happen again, but why not take it out of the AD's hands and make it a CONFERENCE RIVALRY GAME, the last one of every season. Those old WAC games sure were some crazy shootouts. Don't not add 3 great rivalry teams to the conference because it wouldn't be good enough to get in the BCS. Don't not do it because it would add greater parity. Don't not do it because each school would only save $440,000. DO ADD THREE for GREAT RIVALRIES, MORE EXPOSURE, BETTER RECRUITING, and FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. You nay sayers will also say, but a championship game isn't always good, look at Texas and Oklahoma. I say any conference that is a conference should end with a CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It sounds better, it looks better, and it's a heck of a lot more fun. Each team plays their RIVALRY game the last week and that all leads into the CHAMP GAME hype. It's the last game of the season and adds even more HYPE to two of your best conference teams. It's almost like a basketball season without a conference tourney........it just sucks.

Your desire is commendable, but what poster on this board do you think is going to be able to make this happen for you? Every poster on this forum could agree with you and it wouldn't make a dime's worth of difference. You would be better served to communicate your wishes to all of the school presidents and athletic directors.

Or are you just interested in getting the posters here to agree with you?

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I would think so and rivalry weekend would be the one to do it. No reason for this to not happen.

Agreed. San Diego State versus Fresno State should be played the last week of the regular season, same time as BYU-Utah, Colorado State-Wyoming, UNLV-Nevada, Air Force-Navy, TCU-SMU, New Mexico-New Mexico State, Boise State-Idaho, etc.

#20 BYU 14, #3 Oklahoma 13

#18 BYU 26, #21 Utah 23

#14 BYU 44, #16 Oregon State 20

#10 BYU 82, Utah 69

#14 BYU 71, Utah 51

#16 BYU 99, Florida 92

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Even in different conferences cant SDSU and FSU play on rivalry weekend. I mean the MWC has 9 teams and so does the WAC. It would be easy to schedule i would think.

In all due respect... I see no reason to play/allow any OOC western D1A non-BCS conference team into the talent rich San Joaquin Valley to showcase themselves... HS FB is big time in the Central Valley & makes no sense (to me) to allow recruiting competitors any more favors than they need.... The PAC has first choice, then the WAC & MWC fight for the rest with a few mid-western & Eastern BCS teams picking off a few....

Just as, if BSU was to leave for the MWC, they would lose an advantage they have recruiting Cali, which is with three WAC schools in close proximity to each other in Cali, families have multiple opportunities so watch their sons play.. & why I would not advocate Fresno, Reno, or SJSU play BSU after they leave, if that would happen....

No, if playing Fresno as a rival is so important to SDSU,... then they should have stayed in the same conference as the Dogs....

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Valley proving fertile for recruits

Nevada pulling a number of players from California.

By Daniel Lyght / The Fresno Bee

10/05/07 00:54:07

Barry Sacks has been stealing from his neighbors' acreage for a while now. Years.

But he's confident in the cause he's feeding -- University of Nevada athletics.

He's so confident in Nevada's education and athletic programs that his daughter plays on the Wolf Pack soccer team.

"It sounds like a recruiting spiel, but I really believe it," he said Thursday from Reno, back on his home turf.

Though Sacks is a Nevada assistant football coach, he's been harvesting Fresno-area football fields since the 1990s. Grapes and cotton aren't the only things nurtured and growing in Fresno, Sacks said. The Valley produces talented football players as well.

"Players from the Valley have done extremely well for us," Sacks said. "Football's a big deal in the Central Valley and because it's a big deal, it's important to those young men and their families. I know that when they get here, it'll continue to be a big deal to them."

Recruiting the majority of the Central Valley is Fresno State's priority, but other college football programs like Nevada -- which hosts Fresno State on Saturday -- have long taken an interest in the talent the green valley produces.

Nevada has 23 players on its roster from the prime recruiting area Fresno State coach Pat Hill has cut out of the California map: Tehachapi to Sacramento. Five of those players are junior college transfers, whom Hill tends not to recruit. Eight of those 23 players start. Three of the Wolf Pack's top five tacklers this season are from that area.

Sacks has recruited this area as part of the Nevada staff since 2002 and also as an assistant coach at San Jose State from 1998-2000. That experience has helped him develop relationships with area high school coaches -- a key to recruiting success.

"There's no secret to recruiting. It's about relationships," Nevada coach Chris Ault said. "The more you know of the [high school and junior college] coaches ... the more you know about [their] program's foundation, what they believe in, the more you can recruit that area and the more they understand what you do."

Buchanan coach Mike Vogt said he's known Sacks since the early '90s and described him as experienced and personable. Sacks successfully recruited Bears running back Lampford Mark last season, and Vogt said a difference maker was that Nevada wanted Mark specifically as a running back.

Vogt said Sacks did his research and got to know Mark and his family.

"It's being thorough and being persistent that makes a recruiter good," Vogt said.

On the other side, Fresno State has recruited six current players from Nevada, five of them starters. Defensive tackle Charles Tolbert was Nevada's high school defensive player of the year in 2002. In 2004, he played in nine games off the bench as a Bulldogs freshman and his role has only grown.

Losing a player to an opposing school, even a conference rival like Fresno State, is "part of recruiting and the life we lead," Sacks said. "I don't like to lose, but it's part of the whole thing."

What Sacks really enjoys is finding the silver dollar among the pennies -- the diamond in the rough.

"Really, in a large way, it's my job to seek that out," he said.

Perhaps senior defensive tackle Matt Hines has been that. He may not be a diamond, but he's no lump of coal either.

Nevada offered Hines his only opportunity to play football out of Beyer High-Modesto in 2003. Since, he has collected a Western Athletic Conference championship ring (the Wolf Pack shared the title in 2005) and two trips to bowl games.

He's also a two-time team captain, fifth on the team in tackles so far with with 20 (11 solo).

No hurt feelings on Hines' part for not being heavily recruited, though.

"I know they have good players [at Fresno State]," said Hines, admitting that he would have liked to go there after watching the Bulldogs play Wisconsin in 2001 and 2002 while he was in high school. "Looking back, it was for the best."

In 2003, when Ault stepped into the head coaching position for the third time at Nevada, he put more emphasis on recruiting in the Fresno area because his coaches had so much experience recruiting here. Ault said he doesn't plan on expanding the Wolf Pack's role in the Valley, but that doesn't mean they'll be dormant.

Said Ault: "You have to do something to improve recruiting every day."

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