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Q Watkins the four star 2 guard that was suppose to help San Diego State actually make more than two 3 pointers in a game has decided to go home and has left the program. That and a couple of their scub bench players have left for better playing opportunities. Looks like another fourth place finish for the Aztecs next year because if they can't hit a three then evryone will zone them to death. Hope the red and black takes a whole lot of practice shots over the summer.

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Aren't they moving the 3 point line back next year? That will mean a lot less 3 pointers for teams and bring the game more inside. Advantage Aztecs. Losing Q. Watkins does hurt, but they return every impact player from last years club and get Shelton back from injury and hopefully Spain from suspension. Aztecs will be fine.

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Maybe. They still need outside shooting. OK they need consistant outside shooting and I did not see that last year in the games I saw. Still think they are no better than 4th in league but even with Watkins I saw them 3rd at best so I guess not a big drop off. Every time I read something good about MWC basketball it seems to be happening to UNLV.

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Q Watkins the four star 2 guard that was suppose to help San Diego State actually make more than two 3 pointers in a game has decided to go home and has left the program. That and a couple of their scub bench players have left for better playing opportunities. Looks like another fourth place finish for the Aztecs next year because if they can't hit a three then evryone will zone them to death. Hope the red and black takes a whole lot of practice shots over the summer.

Sorry to hear. I was looking forward to seeing him play and increasing the competitiveness in the league. What San Diego State lacked this year was a Brandon Heath type player. I can only imagine what Heath, Wade, and White would have done together. That's really too bad about Watkins as I figured he would be that player. Sounds like Fisher has his work cut out for him starting tommorrow with Spring signing period. Hopefully he can land a couple of quality late signees. I know there are still a few top prospects hangin out in California unsigned.

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Aren't they moving the 3 point line back next year? That will mean a lot less 3 pointers for teams and bring the game more inside. Advantage Aztecs. Losing Q. Watkins does hurt, but they return every impact player from last years club and get Shelton back from injury and hopefully Spain from suspension. Aztecs will be fine.

I don't think moving the three point line back a little is really going to help the teams who pound the paint as much as it is going to help the teams who can penetrate more. Most college teams really don't have a lot of good back to the basket players anyway or even know what to do with them. I say this only after listening to Bobby Knight talk about the move. Initially, I thought it would only benefit post-oriented teams but his analysis made more sense to me than anything else. I wish I could quote it verbatim but it was several weeks ago and I don't remember exactly. I agree with him now though. A team with 2-3 even 4 players that can put the ball on the floor and penetrate the basket will be tough to defend. The defense is going to be more stretched out now and will not be able to react to the paint on drives as quickly.

Back to the basket players will gain some advantage but it will be easier to double down on one post player when necessary as opposed to 3-4 cutting, driving wing players. On top of that, not as many players will be able to hit the three from the further distance thus eliminating some of the threat caused by those players who used to be able to step out to 19'9" and hit that shot. 3 point shooting will be just as valuable as before only now there will be less players that can hit that shot.

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I don't think moving the three point line back a little is really going to help the teams who pound the paint as much as it is going to help the teams who can penetrate more. Most college teams really don't have a lot of good back to the basket players anyway or even know what to do with them. I say this only after listening to Bobby Knight talk about the move. Initially, I thought it would only benefit post-oriented teams but his analysis made more sense to me than anything else. I wish I could quote it verbatim but it was several weeks ago and I don't remember exactly. I agree with him now though. A team with 2-3 even 4 players that can put the ball on the floor and penetrate the basket will be tough to defend. The defense is going to be more stretched out now and will not be able to react to the paint on drives as quickly.

Back to the basket players will gain some advantage but it will be easier to double down on one post player when necessary as opposed to 3-4 cutting, driving wing players. On top of that, not as many players will be able to hit the three from the further distance thus eliminating some of the threat caused by those players who used to be able to step out to 19'9" and hit that shot. 3 point shooting will be just as valuable as before only now there will be less players that can hit that shot.

I agree with you in regards to how the extended 3 point line will help teams that can penetrate and create off the bounce because the defense will be stretched out. However, you still have to have players that are legit threats from beyond the Arc to spread out the defense, otherwise the defense can sag and not respect the 3 point shooters.

I say this as a Wyoming fan that is looking at a team with only 2 players on the entire roster that could be considered perimeter threats (Ogirri and Ewing). A scary prospect going into next year. We need a Chad Toppert of our own.

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I agree with you in regards to how the extended 3 point line will help teams that can penetrate and create off the bounce because the defense will be stretched out. However, you still have to have players that are legit threats from beyond the Arc to spread out the defense, otherwise the defense can sag and not respect the 3 point shooters.

I say this as a Wyoming fan that is looking at a team with only 2 players on the entire roster that could be considered perimeter threats (Ogirri and Ewing). A scary prospect going into next year. We need a Chad Toppert of our own.

Maybe I'm in for a rude awakening but the number of three point baskets I've seen UNLV shoot this year from deep behind the arc doesn't make me feel that scared. They are only moving the line back 12 inches to 20'9". While it will take some getting used to I think teams will be OK. The problem you have with a team that can shoot threes going forward is, as has been mentioned, it will be harder to defend from the drive. The inside out game is going to be even bigger than before and it will be harder to get away with collapsing on the big men. If you have a true back to the basket player and shooters defenses will have a long night trying to contain both.

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Maybe I'm in for a rude awakening but the number of three point baskets I've seen UNLV shoot this year from deep behind the arc doesn't make me feel that scared. They are only moving the line back 12 inches to 20'9". While it will take some getting used to I think teams will be OK. The problem you have with a team that can shoot threes going forward is, as has been mentioned, it will be harder to defend from the drive. The inside out game is going to be even bigger than before and it will be harder to get away with collapsing on the big men. If you have a true back to the basket player and shooters defenses will have a long night trying to contain both.

Its too bad that San Diego State is losing a top notch recruit...but the effect of moving the 3-point line is more interesting.

So in the MWC who do you think the change will help the most, and who will it hurt the most?

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Its too bad that San Diego State is losing a top notch recruit...but the effect of moving the 3-point line is more interesting.

So in the MWC who do you think the change will help the most, and who will it hurt the most?

Who this will benefit is a great question. IMO I think it will benefit UNLV and UNM. We have one of the best three point shooters in the entire country on our team in Toppert and several other players can knock them down. I think that our offense will benefit from the stretched defense as well. I think it could hurt SDSU and Wyoming as they don't really have a strong three point shooting threat. However, both teams have athletic guys that could benefit from the open court so you never know. It will be interesting to see how this changes the game.

One point that I'd like to make. This change could help turn the game more into what it was 10-15 years ago. Lately a lot of teams have been able to be very physical inside. With the court spread they will have to be spread out more on defense and we may see less muggings in the lane. It would be nice to see the game go back to a more elegant COLLEGE style as opposed to the NBA style. They should be two distictive types of basketball.

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One point that I'd like to make. This change could help turn the game more into what it was 10-15 years ago. Lately a lot of teams have been able to be very physical inside. With the court spread they will have to be spread out more on defense and we may see less muggings in the lane. It would be nice to see the game go back to a more elegant COLLEGE style as opposed to the NBA style. They should be two distictive types of basketball.

As much as I'd like to see it to I can't see it happening. The way I see it you will still have the muggings in the lane at times. What you won't see as much of is the double and triple teaming of big men in the lane if a team has a serious three point threat. This is due to the fact that defenses will be spread thin and won't be able to react as quickly. Although I'm sure this will change in time and we may see some adjustments. What I can actually see happening is this may cause the game to speed up more as fast breaks may be more prevalent with the spread defenses. It will be interesting to see what the first year of the change brings. I predict we will see a more fast tempo style of play as you try to catch your opponent off guard.

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So in the MWC who do you think the change will help the most, and who will it hurt the most?

Interesting question. It really is hard to say as this will be the first year that this will be implemented. Not only that but when you think that college players have been shooting the three at that length for 4 years in high school and then some in college. It will be a major adjustment. As to who will benefit the most in the conference I would say those that have the following: A good inside game, a good outside game and quick players.

BYU has a good inside game and they always seem to have shooters. Even if one leaves someone fills in the void. Where they lack is in the speed department. They don't have very quick teams but they work it around and play the inside out game well.

Utah could be dangerous if Tyler Kepkay starts living up to the hype that was created with him after he signed. If he will step up and start making shots more consistently they could be dangerous. Luke Neville can always put up points especially if he is depfended by smaller, slower teams.

I can never figure out SDSU but I think they lack size inside still.

UNLV and UNM are still question marks as they have good returning talent and highly touted recruiting classes but lets face it the news guys haven't played much.

Wyoming, TCU, Air Force, and CSU are all question marks in my book right now.

As much as I hate to say this, I would have to give the nod to Utah and BYU as of this moment but I can't say for sure. Should be interesting to see how much this really affects the game or if it doesn't much at all.

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As much as I'd like to see it to I can't see it happening. The way I see it you will still have the muggings in the lane at times. What you won't see as much of is the double and triple teaming of big men in the lane if a team has a serious three point threat. This is due to the fact that defenses will be spread thin and won't be able to react as quickly. Although I'm sure this will change in time and we may see some adjustments. What I can actually see happening is this may cause the game to speed up more as fast breaks may be more prevalent with the spread defenses. It will be interesting to see what the first year of the change brings. I predict we will see a more fast tempo style of play as you try to catch your opponent off guard.

I think you sort-of made my point. We'll never get rid of muggings all together but a quicker game will prevent a lot of it. Muggings typically occur during slow plodding half court based games. If the speed of the game is increased there will be fewer opportunities for people to really get beat up in the paint.

Either way, I see this as a plus for the college game.

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