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4 hours ago, happycamper said:

Lol. 

Ok Blues, you take the nation with 1 other person and 500 tons of gold and I'll take a little town in Switzerland. We'll see which one has higher productivity and more wealth. 

The only reason that capital has meaning is the production of the workers. 

Sounds good, first thing i do is buy your little town in Switzerland and hire all the residents. I also buy the raw materials, training and build them a space to produce a unique high profit widget that i bought the patent for.

 

So you have no capital, what are you going to produce from your town "farts"?  Oh wait, you can't even produce farts because your people are starving to death without capital to buy food.  So they are hunter gathering all day just to stay alive.

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14 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Sounds good, first thing i do is buy your little town in Switzerland and hire all the residents. I also buy the raw materials, training and build them a space to produce a unique high profit widget that i bought the patent for.

 

So you have no capital, what are you going to produce from your town "farts"?

So how are you contacting my little town in Switzerland? 

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7 minutes ago, happycamper said:

So how are you contacting my little town in Switzerland? 

I hired a Switzerland little town specialist because I have capital.

How long until all your citizens are dead because you can't feed them?   They have no product to sell because you can't buy raw materials.  They can't even sell raw materials because you can't buy or lease the land it is on.    They have no training because you can't afford it.  

Your "fart", production plan is failing because there is no food to push em out and you have no containers to hold them in because again you have no capital.

 

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Just now, bluerules009 said:

I hired a Switzerland little town specialist because I have capital.

How long until all your citizens are dead because you can't feed them?   They have no product to sell because you can't buy raw materials.  They can't even sell raw materials because you can't buy or lease the land it is on.    They have no training because you can't afford it.  

Your "fart", production plan is failing because there is no food to push em out and you have no containers to hold them in because again you have no capital.

 

How did you contact that specialist?

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15 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

It took me a long time but because I had capital i could feed myself while i was learning to use google.  I could also pay for 10 trips to Switzerland because i had capital.

How did you contact people to buy that food?

How did you get a computer?

How did you book a ticket to Switzerland?

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1 hour ago, happycamper said:

How did you contact people to buy that food?

How did you get a computer?

How did you book a ticket to Switzerland?

I had capital pretty easy for me to get anything i wanted.  Just paid for labor just like i paid for oil and cars and anything else.

You on the other hand are still working on your fart business.   Since your town is all dying for lack of capital to even accomplish the most minor things like feeding your workers, i imagine it isn't going well.  I am not sure why your workers even fart for you since you have nothing to give them.

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4 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

I had capital pretty easy for me to get anything i wanted.  Just paid for labor just like i paid for oil and cars and anything else.

You on the other hand are still working on your fart business.   Since your town is all dying for lack of capital to even accomplish the most minor things like feeding your workers, i imagine it isn't going well.  I am not sure why your workers even fart for you since you have nothing to give them.

So, who are you paying for this labor? How did you get in touch with them?

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1 minute ago, bluerules009 said:

capital

I used it to pay your starving workers a subsistence wage.

 

The workers who without my capital and under your plan would be dead now.

How did you contact any of my workers?

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Just now, happycamper said:

How did you contact any of my workers?

Since they had no capital, no nothing.

I was lucky i used my capital to pay a visit and find a group of workers that had to take my low subsistence wages because they had no other choice.  Since it was that or starve to death under your plan.

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1 minute ago, bluerules009 said:

Since they had no capital, no nothing.

I was lucky i used my capital to pay a visit and find a group of workers that had to take my low subsistence wages because they had no other choice.  Since it was that or starve to death under your plan.

How did you "visit" and "find" that group of workers? How did you get there?

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1 minute ago, happycamper said:

How did you "visit" and "find" that group of workers? How did you get there?

How do you think?

I paid for gas, for a private plane, for food, for labor all using that one necessary factor.   The factor that means your town of people in Switzerland  is useless without.

It is called capitalism for a reason retard.

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7 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

How do you think?

I paid for gas, for a private plane, for food, for labor all using that one necessary factor.   The factor that means your town of people in Switzerland  is useless without.

It is called capitalism for a reason retard.

How did you contact the private plane?

How did you contact anyone for food?

How did you get any gas?

Who did you pay for gas?

Who did you pay for food?

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Just now, bluerules009 said:

 

You are making no point.  Masturbate on yourself.

 

I'm making a fine point, you're just too stupid to answer a series of simple questions.

In your country with a single other resident, who are you paying for gas?

Who is running the power?

Who is making the phones?

Who is debugging the switchboard?

Who is building and maintaining the roads?

Who is selling the food?

Who is contacting the outside world?

Hell, who is making sure the single other resident doesn't tie you up and feed you your gold bars for the fun of it?

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4 minutes ago, happycamper said:

I'm making a fine point, you're just too stupid to answer a series of simple questions.

In your country with a single other resident, who are you paying for gas?

Who is running the power?

Who is making the phones?

Who is debugging the switchboard?

Who is building and maintaining the roads?

Who is selling the food?

Who is contacting the outside world?

Hell, who is making sure the single other resident doesn't tie you up and feed you your gold bars for the fun of it?

I answered your questions numerous times.  I purchased labor, power, phones, switchboards etc... with my capital.

You are too stupid and keep asking them becaue you will not ever admit you are wrong.

You of course never answered a single question i posed.  Which is  understandable because for lack of capital you have starved to death.  Your workers never produced a thing for you, they all went to work for me.  

I imagine you will continue to double down on dumb.

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4 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

I answered your questions numerous times.  I purchased labor, power, phones, switchboards etc... with my capital.

You are too stupid and keep asking them becaue you will not ever admit you are wrong.

You of course never answered a single question i posed.  Which is  understandable because for lack of capital you have starved to death.  Your workers never produced a thing for you, they all went to work for me.  

I imagine you will continue to double down on dumb.

How did you contact the "labor", blues? You have 500 tons of gold, and one other dude.

How did you get the power to run to call anybody? Do you know how to run a power station? Do you know how to run a switchboard?

How did you get any food while figuring this out?

How did that capital help you when you only had a single other person to pay?

Capital is the fuel of the economy, but the workers are the engine. One without the other is meaningless, and the quality of the engine greatly affects how well the fuel makes the whole vehicle run. 

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8 minutes ago, happycamper said:

How did you contact the "labor", blues? You have 500 tons of gold, and one other dude.

How did you get the power to run to call anybody? Do you know how to run a power station? Do you know how to run a switchboard?

How did you get any food while figuring this out?

How did that capital help you when you only had a single other person to pay?

Capital is the fuel of the economy, but the workers are the engine. One without the other is meaningless, and the quality of the engine greatly affects how well the fuel makes the whole vehicle run. 

The workers are no more the engine than energy or iron or plastic or any other commodity. Labor is just another thing you can buy.

With capital i can do anything.

Without capital you could do nothing.   As you proved by your silence to my questions.

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Just now, bluerules009 said:

The workers are no more the engine than energy or iron or plastic or any other commodity. Labor is just another thing you can buy.

No, it isn't. You can treat it as a commodity in macro analysis, but in the end, the only thing that makes anything go is labor. 

Dollars without labor are crappy toilet paper.

Gold without labor is a paperweight.

Oil without labor is a useless chemical.

Meat without labor is a few day's food, I suppose, before it spoils.

Infrastructure without labor is just a temporary interesting feature.

The only thing that makes any economy run, the only thing that makes one economy work better than another, and the only thing that has and will ever make goods and services is the labor that people provide. Frankly, blues, your bizarre economic worldview makes communism seem acceptable. 

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