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I'm probably not going to be too popular with this post but when have I ever sought popularity? Anyway, it just saddens me that Americans resort to violence so quickly. It happens on every side of the spectrum wherein anger supersedes reason. Yes, that Nazi is a punk ass and his views are contrary to tolerance and pacifism .. but I'm just speaking about our nation as a whole. The angry violent behavior in our culture is disturbing.  

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15 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. You run your mouth, you might end up eating those words. The guy who threw the punch deserves to be arrested and locked up, there are consequences to those actions as well.

The trouble comes when the police are told to stand down, to not do their jobs.

That is assuming he would be convicted.   I'm not sure you could get 10 people to vote to convict.  

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2 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said:

I'm probably not going to be too popular with this post but when have I ever sought popularity? Anyway, it just saddens me that Americans resort to violence so quickly. It happens on every side of the spectrum wherein anger supersedes reason. Yes, that Nazi is a punk ass and his views are contrary to tolerance and pacifism .. but I'm just speaking about our nation as a whole. The angry violent behavior in our culture is disturbing.  

Agree

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1 hour ago, sactowndog said:

That is assuming he would be convicted.   I'm not sure you could get 10 people to vote to convict.  

The jury system has its problems, to be sure. But it's what we got, and it's preferable to the alternatives for the most part.

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1 hour ago, Joe from WY said:

i was just going to say this. What's especially galling is the so-called "libertarians" (not you, I share your views) on here getting giddy about it. I'm a big free speech guy, but apparently those of us who masquerade as such on here, aren't. 

I'm totally not OK with this guy getting sucker punched. So what...he's a Nazi. This is America. People are allowed to be Nazis if they want to be. I think what's disgusting is people rooting it on like it was some "hilarious/great" moment. Sucker punching a skinhead has no honor, and honestly this is symptomatic of the discourse as a whole right now, which is greatly disturbing. 

I hope this guy gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. 

There's nothing that makes you consider whether you are being such an insufferable asshole that you need to totally re-evaluate your life like getting socked in the face. Every kid between high school and college needs to get clocked at least once just to realize that being an asshole has consequences. 

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1 hour ago, Joe from WY said:

i was just going to say this. What's especially galling is the so-called "libertarians" (not you, I share your views) on here getting giddy about it. I'm a big free speech guy, but apparently those of us who masquerade as such on here, aren't. 

I'm totally not OK with this guy getting sucker punched. So what...he's a Nazi. This is America. People are allowed to be Nazis if they want to be. I think what's disgusting is people rooting it on like it was some "hilarious/great" moment. Sucker punching a skinhead has no honor, and honestly this is symptomatic of the discourse as a whole right now, which is greatly disturbing. 

I hope this guy gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. 

that's a fair take, but like @happycamper said, sometimes you need to get put in your place.  

if there was a mob of people and they beat the tar out of him I'd feel very differently.  but in this isolated instance, i don't feel bad for the nazi.  he bought a ticket and took the ride.

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4 minutes ago, happycamper said:

There's nothing that makes you consider whether you are being such an insufferable asshole that you need to totally re-evaluate your life like getting socked in the face. Every kid between high school and college needs to get clocked at least once just to realize that being an asshole has consequences. 

And in a two-bird scenario, the puncher needs to face consequences to learn arbitrarily bringing violence has them.

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2 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said:

And in a two-bird scenario, the puncher needs to face consequences to learn arbitrarily bringing violence has them.

You could just daisy chain it. The puncher turns around and gets dropped himself. Whose puncher also turns around and...

 

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38 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

Yes. Let's just beat up people we disagree with. Great idea. 

Where did I say that?

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37 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

I feel bad for the current state of affairs in this country where sucker punching someone for exercising their freedom of speech isn't just acceptable but celebrated. 

Bunch of fascists. Irony isn't lost here. 

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4 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

So just admit out and out you're a fascist or at least harbor fascist tendencies and we can move on. You've admitted as much in so many words with your posts on this thread anyway. 

I didn't say "I think it's great when people, especially the government - in fact, only the government or those supporting the government, go out there and punch people". My "someone should get punched once in their life" has nothing to do with politics. 

I said that in terms of human interaction, there's a line that gets crossed where people stop giving a shit about what you're saying and start punching. Almost everyone learns this pretty early (and it's why the internet is such a cesspool, people know they can violate social norms with zero repercussions). 

As a society, we have a very tolerant line, especially compared to the past. However... it's still there. It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with being an insufferable jackass. 

This is coming from a guy who has "won" exactly one fight by clocking a guy after he spat on me in a bar (the dude stared at me in surprise and then security escorted him out and not me because...?? I guess I tipped ok) and who has lost one fight by being so dickish and full of myself that I'd punch past me well before the other guy did. It's like a forced introspective moment, timeout for grownups. 

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3 hours ago, Joe from WY said:

i was just going to say this. What's especially galling is the so-called "libertarians" (not you, I share your views) on here getting giddy about it. I'm a big free speech guy, but apparently those of us who masquerade as such on here, aren't. 

I'm totally not OK with this guy getting sucker punched. So what...he's a Nazi. This is America. People are allowed to be Nazis if they want to be. I think what's disgusting is people rooting it on like it was some "hilarious/great" moment. Sucker punching a skinhead has no honor, and honestly this is symptomatic of the discourse as a whole right now, which is greatly disturbing. 

I hope this guy gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. 

I don't condone randomly punching Nazis, though I will never shed a tear when one does get punched. But when did libertarians have to be pacifists? 

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1 hour ago, happycamper said:

There's nothing that makes you consider whether you are being such an insufferable asshole that you need to totally re-evaluate your life like getting socked in the face. Every kid between high school and college needs to get clocked at least once just to realize that being an asshole has consequences. 

Including the guy that threw the punch?

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1 hour ago, Joe from WY said:

I feel bad for the current state of affairs in this country where sucker punching someone for exercising their freedom of speech isn't just acceptable but celebrated. 

Bunch of fascists. Irony isn't lost here. 

Especially if the puncher was part of the group that used social media to track the guy down.  Some are reporting it was Antifa that hunted the guy.  That completely changes my opinion of the matter, if true.

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36 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

So just admit out and out you're a fascist or at least harbor fascist tendencies and we can move on. You've admitted as much in so many words with your posts on this thread anyway. 

Joe. I like you, but this is silly. 0 to fascist in one 30-second video? 

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5 hours ago, BSUTOP25 said:

I'm probably not going to be too popular with this post but when have I ever sought popularity? Anyway, it just saddens me that Americans resort to violence so quickly. It happens on every side of the spectrum wherein anger supersedes reason. Yes, that Nazi is a punk ass and his views are contrary to tolerance and pacifism .. but I'm just speaking about our nation as a whole. The angry violent behavior in our culture is disturbing.  

I think this is fair. We are an angry, violent culture, and this is nothing new. Not even close. This probably shouldn't be an eye-opening event.

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23 minutes ago, pokebball said:

Including the guy that threw the punch?

 

22 minutes ago, NVGiant said:

Something tells me with his form, he has been punched plenty. 

Yeah this is how I feel. Looking at the dude... he knew exactly how to punch the guy. He's been around the block. 

20 minutes ago, pokebball said:

Especially if the puncher was part of the group that used social media to track the guy down.  Some are reporting it was Antifa that hunted the guy.  That completely changes my opinion of the matter, if true.

Yes, me too. 

Getting pissed off at a Nazi who is yelling/harassing you and punching him? ok

Tracking a nazi and confronting him with a punch? nah. That's like using a drone to find your elk

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