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On 8/18/2017 at 8:05 AM, Old_SD_Dude said:

Man, I was just starting to feel a little optimistic with the above...

 

On 8/18/2017 at 8:17 AM, retrofade said:

At it's most base...

Jefferson didn't fight in a war to keep the economic system that was slavery in place. Lee was not one of the founders of this country; he wasn't one of the biggest contributors to the Declaration of Independence, he didn't help to found our system of government, and he wasn't a President. 

 

On 8/18/2017 at 9:01 AM, renoskier said:

Have enough folks adequately addressed your question?

no..... Jefferson helped write a document that established that slaves 3/5 of a man...protected generations of slavery...., owned slaves. 

Instead of tearing things down, perhaps those who wish to destroy hisotry should put up their own statues. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Jackrabbit said:

 

 

no..... Jefferson helped write a document that established that slaves 3/5 of a man...protected generations of slavery...., owned slaves. 

Instead of tearing things down, perhaps those who wish to destroy hisotry should put up their own statues. 

 

No he didn't. Jefferson was in France when that document was written. Jefferson wrote the document that stated all men are created equal.

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31 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

No he didn't. Jefferson was in France when that document was written. Jefferson wrote the document that stated all men are created equal.

The 3/5 compromise helped make Jefferson Pres.

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7 minutes ago, Jackrabbit said:

The 3/5 compromise helped make Jefferson Pres.

Didn't mean he was responsible for it. He wasn't even in the country, let alone the room.

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21 minutes ago, Jackrabbit said:

The 3/5 compromise helped make Jefferson Pres.

Just keep moving the goalpost. 

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2 hours ago, Jackrabbit said:

 

 

no..... Jefferson helped write a document that established that slaves 3/5 of a man...protected generations of slavery...., owned slaves. 

Instead of tearing things down, perhaps those who wish to destroy hisotry should put up their own statues. 

 

Why were statues erected to honor traitors and losers?

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5 hours ago, Jackrabbit said:

The 3/5 compromise helped make Jefferson Pres.

Uh, it helped make Lincoln president, too

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5 hours ago, renoskier said:

Why were statues erected to honor traitors and losers?

@Jackrabbit I, and several others, have answered your question.  Why don't you try to answer mine? 

Why were these traitors being honored?

 

For those who are actually curious, this interesting interview, with University of Georgia history professor James Cobb, provides some context.

http://www.capradio.org/news/npr/story?storyid=544886671

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1 hour ago, renoskier said:

@Jackrabbit I, and several others, have answered your question.  Why don't you try to answer mine? 

Why were these traitors being honored?

 

For those who are actually curious, this interesting interview, with University of Georgia history professor James Cobb, provides some context.

http://www.capradio.org/news/npr/story?storyid=544886671

The traitors to the constitution were on the Union side.

They changed the country from one where state governments ruled, to federal rule.

 

You have just bought into the decades of brainwashing and revisionist history written by the victors.  You guys are the types that if Hitler had won WWII you would be hailing him a hero of human rights.

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On 8/20/2017 at 7:57 PM, renoskier said:

@Jackrabbit I, and several others, have answered your question.  Why don't you try to answer mine? 

Why were these traitors being honored?

 

For those who are actually curious, this interesting interview, with University of Georgia history professor James Cobb, provides some context.

http://www.capradio.org/news/npr/story?storyid=544886671

Been chasing the eclipse.

Any statue of a person who owned a slave will be removed.  You are splitting hairs.

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11 minutes ago, Jackrabbit said:

Been chasing the eclipse.

Any statue of a person who owned a slave will be removed.  You are splitting hairs.

You've also been drinking alt right Kool-Aid, apparently.

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2 minutes ago, Old_SD_Dude said:

You've also been drinking alt right Kool-Aid, apparently.

So...if the right wants to protect our history no matter how ugly....then I'm your man.   The altright term used to stand for libertarianism.  It's been hijacked.

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10 minutes ago, Old_SD_Dude said:

You've also been drinking alt right Kool-Aid, apparently.

Tell us why progressives want to tear statues down rather than put some up?  Why now instead of 8 yrs ago?

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1 hour ago, Jackrabbit said:

Been chasing the eclipse.

Any statue of a person who owned a slave will be removed.  You are splitting hairs.

Have some balls, answer the question.

Why were traitors being honored?

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1 hour ago, Jackrabbit said:

Been chasing the eclipse.

Any statue of a person who owned a slave will be removed.  You are splitting hairs.

Based on what?

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It is kind of funny that Robert E. Lee a guy that was against slavery and was in the process of freeing his family's slaves in the run up to the civil war.  Is considered by you brainwashed morons as a symbol of slavery and Washington and Jefferson aren't.

Lee hated slavery and almost fought for the north because of it but couldn't be a traitor to his state.  At the time of the civil war States were considered independent countries in status and the federal government was more an association than the current death pact Lincoln created.   

Lee fought solely for his state's right to make independent decisions.

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