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I work for a non-profit trust fund that provides benefits for union employees.  It is funded by employers who employ these employees.  I am an auditor and make sure that the employers are paying us correctly.  My long story is below.

My coworker and I are working on different audits of different casino properties, but they are owned by the same multinational casino brand.  Therefore, we are utilizing the same employer contacts to complete our audits.

Back in June, I went to complete an audit procedure.  It started at 8:30, and the employer's office didn't open until 9 am.  I called my employer contacts, and they didn't pick up the phone.  I had to wait until 9 am for the office to open.  I told the receptionist that I had an 8:30 am meeting.  She stated that she would go check.  I can't remember what she said, but I went to her several times for updates.  Obviously, I wasn't happy because I got no prior notification that they were going to be late.  I got another individual involved who was not associated with my audit.  After he got involved, I finally met with my employer contacts.  They were only about 75 minutes late.

This Tuesday, my coworker went to perform an audit procedure with the same people I met with back in June.  I am convinced that they complained about me to her and that she went and told my boss.  The reason I say this is because I was scheduled to see these people again on Wednesday.  However, my boss said that she was going for me.

Yesterday, I asked her what was going on.  She stated that I was under investigation regarding my conduct towards that employer and those employer contacts.  She did not go into details, but I know her boss is aware, and I believe that HR is involved.  My boss and her boss said that I'm just supposed to sit there if an employer contact is late, put on a smiley face, and do nothing about it.  That is antithetical to how I am, as I am about punctuality.  I asked how she found out about the incident back in June, and she stated that she isn't at liberty to say.  I know that my coworker ratted me out because the incident happened over a month ago, and it only came to light after she went out and saw these people.  She could have just kept her mouth shut because there's no way that they told her I was not welcome back to see them.  They sent me a confirmation and directions on how to get to the HR office at the property I was auditing after my coworker finished seeing them.

I asked my boss point blank if I'm getting fired, and she stated that she doesnt know.  She stated that a decision may be reached tomorrow.  If it's not, then it won't be reached until the 21st at the least, which is when she gets back from vacation.

How f*cked up is my company that they would consider firing me for complaining to a receptionist about my contacts being late and giving me no prior warning?  Do the employer contacts have some balls for having the audacity to be angry at me because I was mad at them being late and giving me no notification?  How f*cked up is my coworker for ratting me out to my boss when she didn't have to or need to?

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You acknowledge that you were "mad." The person you apparently repeatedly expressed your anger to was a receptionist with no control over the people with whom you were supposed to meet. You "got another individual involved who was not associated with my audit." Did you just collar this person or did they get involved because they witnessed your anger? Anger is not a good emotion to express in a business setting. You need to remember that the company you were meeting with is indirectly paying you, and as such their opinion of your conduct, rightly or wrongly, is going to influence your position with your employer. Before you immediately judge your company, I think you need to exercise some self-reflection. If you went into the business and over the course of an hour repeatedly harangued the receptionist, so much so that someone had to get involved to mollify you, then a big part of the kerfuffle is on you and there may be consequences. Next time I suggest you sit in the air conditioned reception area and compose a post updating us on your sex life. 

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36 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

I work for a non-profit trust fund that provides benefits for union employees.  It is funded by employers who employ these employees.  I am an auditor and make sure that the employers are paying us correctly.  My long story is below.

My coworker and I are working on different audits of different casino properties, but they are owned by the same multinational casino brand.  Therefore, we are utilizing the same employer contacts to complete our audits.

Back in June, I went to complete an audit procedure.  It started at 8:30, and the employer's office didn't open until 9 am.  I called my employer contacts, and they didn't pick up the phone.  I had to wait until 9 am for the office to open.  I told the receptionist that I had an 8:30 am meeting.  She stated that she would go check.  I can't remember what she said, but I went to her several times for updates.  Obviously, I wasn't happy because I got no prior notification that they were going to be late.  I got another individual involved who was not associated with my audit.  After he got involved, I finally met with my employer contacts.  They were only about 75 minutes late.

This Tuesday, my coworker went to perform an audit procedure with the same people I met with back in June.  I am convinced that they complained about me to her and that she went and told my boss.  The reason I say this is because I was scheduled to see these people again on Wednesday.  However, my boss said that she was going for me.

Yesterday, I asked her what was going on.  She stated that I was under investigation regarding my conduct towards that employer and those employer contacts.  She did not go into details, but I know her boss is aware, and I believe that HR is involved.  My boss and her boss said that I'm just supposed to sit there if an employer contact is late, put on a smiley face, and do nothing about it.  That is antithetical to how I am, as I am about punctuality.  I asked how she found out about the incident back in June, and she stated that she isn't at liberty to say.  I know that my coworker ratted me out because the incident happened over a month ago, and it only came to light after she went out and saw these people.  She could have just kept her mouth shut because there's no way that they told her I was not welcome back to see them.  They sent me a confirmation and directions on how to get to the HR office at the property I was auditing after my coworker finished seeing them.

I asked my boss point blank if I'm getting fired, and she stated that she doesnt know.  She stated that a decision may be reached tomorrow.  If it's not, then it won't be reached until the 21st at the least, which is when she gets back from vacation.

How f*cked up is my company that they would consider firing me for complaining to a receptionist about my contacts being late and giving me no prior warning?  Do the employer contacts have some balls for having the audacity to be angry at me because I was mad at them being late and giving me no notification?  How f*cked up is my coworker for ratting me out to my boss when she didn't have to or need to?

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Funny I had the same thought on age.   They are the customer.   It doesn't matter if they are 2 hours late it is still your job to be pleasant and deal with it.   There is no point blaming your co-worker as the account probably went and complained to her and she would be obligated to pass on the complaint.   Being punctual is great but you don't always know why another person isn't.  Perhaps they have a child in the hospital.   It is a good rule to seek to understand first before letting your emotions get the best of you.

 

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Just now, sactowndog said:

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Funny I had the same thought on age.   They are the customer.   It doesn't matter if they are 2 hours late it is still your job to be pleasant and deal with it.   There is no point blaming your co-worker as the account probably went and complained to her and she would be obligated to pass on the complaint.   Being punctual is great but you don't always know why another person isn't.  Perhaps they have a child in the hospital.   It is a good rule to seek to understand first before letting your emotions get the best of you.

 

 I specifically stated that I work for a nonprofit for a reason. It doesn't matter how well we treat them. They have to pay money to watch regardless of whether they like it or not. That probably comes off as harsh, but that's the reality of the situation.  It is a non-business and involuntary relationship.

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7 minutes ago, AndroidAggie said:

if you're real, then you have seriously missed out on the basics of human interaction and what is constructive behavior

if you're fake, then you're very entertaining

 To give some context, my parents were business owners from before I was born until about a week ago. My dad routinely went off on people and didn't put up with any shit. That's probably where I got it from.

Another thing is that I never raise my voice at the receptionist.

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7 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

I'm 27 years old, and I have a Masters degree in accounting. I'm contemplating going back to school to study nutrition.

Well son, I'll just say that you've got a lot to learn when it comes to human interaction. Every job has required etiquette and protocol, even if you work for yourself you still have to deal with stakeholders. There are times when you just have to hold back your emotions and conduct yourself like a professional. Regardless of what happens, use this as a learning experience. 

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10 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

 I specifically stated that I work for a nonprofit for a reason. It doesn't matter how well we treat them. They have to pay money to watch regardless of whether they like it or not. That probably comes off as harsh, but that's the reality of the situation.  It is a non-business and involuntary relationship.

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1 minute ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Well son, I'll just say that you've got a lot to learn when it comes to human interaction. Every job has required etiquette and protocol, even if you work for yourself you still have to deal with stakeholders. There are times when you just have to hold back your emotions and conduct yourself like a professional. Regardless of what happens, use this as a learning experience. 

I'll admit that I'm N imperfect human being.  However, it's a sad statement on society that somebody gets mad when somebody is angry at them for being late and giving no prior notice that they're going to be.  The level of class in American society is going down the drain.

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12 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

 I specifically stated that I work for a nonprofit for a reason. It doesn't matter how well we treat them. They have to pay money to watch regardless of whether they like it or not. That probably comes off as harsh, but that's the reality of the situation.  It is a non-business and involuntary relationship.

There's your sign.

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1 minute ago, ph90702 said:

I'll admit that I'm N imperfect human being.  However, it's a sad statement on society that somebody gets mad when somebody is angry at them for being late and giving no prior notice that they're going to be.  The level of class in American society is going down the drain.

Is anyone here excusing the tardiness?  I don't think so.

You control what you can control.  That is you, your behavior and demeanor.  You had a choice to be cordial or to be an asshole.  You were getting paid for your wait, right?

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3 minutes ago, Old_SD_Dude said:

Well, you won't be if you're let go. 

I'm going to be calling an attorney regarding the way they're handling my situation.  I'm no lawyer, but I don't think they're allowed to tell me they may fire me and then leave me with a black cloud hanging over my head for at least a week.

My boss said that a decision probably won't be reached until after she gets back from vacation on the 21st.  She here today but off next week.

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3 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

I'm going to be calling an attorney regarding the way they're handling my situation.  I'm no lawyer, but I don't think they're allowed to tell me they may fire me and then leave me with a black cloud hanging over my head for at least a week.

My boss said that a decision probably won't be reached until after she gets back from vacation on the 21st.  She here today but off next week.

Isn't Nevada an at will employment state? If so, they can fire you when they want. 

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1 hour ago, ph90702 said:

 To give some context, my parents were business owners from before I was born until about a week ago. My dad routinely went off on people and didn't put up with any shit. That's probably where I got it from.

Another thing is that I never raise my voice at the receptionist.

you have serious issues with how other people behave, and you want to exert some form of coercion over them to bend them to how YOU think things ought to be, without owning the fact that it's YOUR way of doing things.  you frame it as how the way the world just plain is, rather than your interpretation of it.  and you're just beholden to rules others are breaking.  it's distorted thinking.

next time wait for a continued pattern of bad behavior before calling people out.  if the hammer was dropped every time someone stepped a toe out of line, the organizational trust that binds people together to get a job done would be eroded.  you are not perfect.  you make mistakes.  if someone dropped the hammer on you the same way you do it for women you date and customers who are late, you would squawk and scream and cry foul.  quit worrying about other people's mistakes and focus on yours.  forgive them.  don't seek to punish or change their behavior.  worry about you and be graceful for everyone else.

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1 hour ago, ph90702 said:

I work for a non-profit trust fund that provides benefits for union employees.  It is funded by employers who employ these employees.  I am an auditor and make sure that the employers are paying us correctly.  My long story is below.

My coworker and I are working on different audits of different casino properties, but they are owned by the same multinational casino brand.  Therefore, we are utilizing the same employer contacts to complete our audits.

Back in June, I went to complete an audit procedure.  It started at 8:30, and the employer's office didn't open until 9 am.  I called my employer contacts, and they didn't pick up the phone.  I had to wait until 9 am for the office to open.  I told the receptionist that I had an 8:30 am meeting.  She stated that she would go check.  I can't remember what she said, but I went to her several times for updates.  Obviously, I wasn't happy because I got no prior notification that they were going to be late.  I got another individual involved who was not associated with my audit.  After he got involved, I finally met with my employer contacts.  They were only about 75 minutes late.

This Tuesday, my coworker went to perform an audit procedure with the same people I met with back in June.  I am convinced that they complained about me to her and that she went and told my boss.  The reason I say this is because I was scheduled to see these people again on Wednesday.  However, my boss said that she was going for me.

Yesterday, I asked her what was going on.  She stated that I was under investigation regarding my conduct towards that employer and those employer contacts.  She did not go into details, but I know her boss is aware, and I believe that HR is involved.  My boss and her boss said that I'm just supposed to sit there if an employer contact is late, put on a smiley face, and do nothing about it.  That is antithetical to how I am, as I am about punctuality.  I asked how she found out about the incident back in June, and she stated that she isn't at liberty to say.  I know that my coworker ratted me out because the incident happened over a month ago, and it only came to light after she went out and saw these people.  She could have just kept her mouth shut because there's no way that they told her I was not welcome back to see them.  They sent me a confirmation and directions on how to get to the HR office at the property I was auditing after my coworker finished seeing them.

I asked my boss point blank if I'm getting fired, and she stated that she doesnt know.  She stated that a decision may be reached tomorrow.  If it's not, then it won't be reached until the 21st at the least, which is when she gets back from vacation.

How f*cked up is my company that they would consider firing me for complaining to a receptionist about my contacts being late and giving me no prior warning?  Do the employer contacts have some balls for having the audacity to be angry at me because I was mad at them being late and giving me no notification?  How f*cked up is my coworker for ratting me out to my boss when she didn't have to or need to?

Bud as soon as you get there, you are on the clock. They're paying your salary.

So... who cares if they forget? Say something to the receptionist, nod and smile, ask politely if there is any coffee and an empty desk where you can "get some work done" or at least mwcboard while waiting, and chill. They scheduled you, they're paying for it. If they want to pay you to wait at their office for 2 hours before they get there every day, so be it. Take the time to do whatever you want. It isn't your fault if the client is bad at using your billable time efficiently. It's a lot better situation than some of them when the client tries to use you hyper effectively and tries to get you on the clock in tiny little bursts. 

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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36 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

I'm going to be calling an attorney regarding the way they're handling my situation.  I'm no lawyer, but I don't think they're allowed to tell me they may fire me and then leave me with a black cloud hanging over my head for at least a week.

My boss said that a decision probably won't be reached until after she gets back from vacation on the 21st.  She here today but off next week.

You work in Nevada.  You can be fired for any reason. We are a right to work State. 

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