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12 hours ago, Jersey Rebels said:

Nah, man, gotta do like Indiana University of Pennsylvania. 

San Diego State University of Nevada.

 

They'll have Nevada over their chests from now on, pissing off both UNLV and UNR. 

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39 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said:

Have you seen Albertson Stadium?  It's not the Shangri-La, but they have good practice and training facilities.  SDSU doesn't even have a shitty Albertson's, and they don't have the best training and practice facilities.  They are still winning.  :shrug:

Yeah, have you seen UNLV's practice facilities as well.  They suck too.  There has been no money behind UNLV football for decades, and the program reflects that.  At SDSU and BSU, football is #1.  At UNLV it has always been a second class citizen to basketball, and the product on the field reflects that.  With the new stadium and finally a football practice facility, we are finally seeing a dedicated push to make the program better.  You can talk about desire to win and blame the fans all you want, but reality is that UNLV was never going to be good over the long term until a dedication to improving all football facilities was done.  That is something this program has NEVER had. Period.

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35 minutes ago, Poster17 said:

Yeah, have you seen UNLV's practice facilities as well.  They suck too.  There has been no money behind UNLV football for decades, and the program reflects that.  At SDSU and BSU, football is #1.  At UNLV it has always been a second class citizen to basketball, and the product on the field reflects that.  With the new stadium and finally a football practice facility, we are finally seeing a dedicated push to make the program better.  You can talk about desire to win and blame the fans all you want, but reality is that UNLV was never going to be good over the long term until a dedication to improving all football facilities was done.  That is something this program has NEVER had. Period.

I haven't blamed fans, or desire.  But I am not going to say that facilities change everything either.  It is a mix of multiple factors.  Fans are by and large a consequence, not a determinant, of success.

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57 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said:

I haven't blamed fans, or desire.  But I am not going to say that facilities change everything either.  It is a mix of multiple factors.  Fans are by and large a consequence, not a determinant, of success.

Yup, it really boils down to money and spending priorities. Football was never the spending priority that hoops was for UNLV. As a result, the budget (coaches, training table, recruiting) suffered as did facilities. Some programs are lucky enough to have a good amount of success on the cheap (UNR, Hawaii), but most aren't granted this luck.

The "culture change" Sanchez seeks can't really come from him. It has to come from the top. So far a couple of our recent President's have talked a good game, and things have improved somewhat, but there is still a long ways to go.

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It's not just about money. Boise has been good for a long time, and that's directly related to their love of football in Boise. It's been that way long before the money came. That's why I chuckle when people get all bent on conference affiliation. You people piss on the Big Sky but that was a GREAT conference for college football - right up until Nevada/Boise/Idaho left and it expanded with Cal State and other programs. In many of those small cities there will be a core group of people that will freeze their asses off in 10 degree weather to watch their teams and they don't give two chits what ESPN thinks.

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6 hours ago, Poster17 said:

But it goes hand in hand.  In order to win on the field, you need your facilities to reflect that.  Sam Boyd is horrible.  You bring in recruits to that dump on their trip, and they start second guessing.  You bring them into a first-class nfl facility on the strip two miles from campus, they'll start imagining playing there.  When the talent on the field improves, the winning will improve which will bring in even better recruits.  It all starts with facilities and dedication to the program with UNLV. 

Don't mind him, he is mad because Tony Sanchez stole his lunch when they were in elementary school.

6 hours ago, Poster17 said:

Yeah, have you seen UNLV's practice facilities as well.  They suck too.  There has been no money behind UNLV football for decades, and the program reflects that.  At SDSU and BSU, football is #1.  At UNLV it has always been a second class citizen to basketball, and the product on the field reflects that.  With the new stadium and finally a football practice facility, we are finally seeing a dedicated push to make the program better.  You can talk about desire to win and blame the fans all you want, but reality is that UNLV was never going to be good over the long term until a dedication to improving all football facilities was done.  That is something this program has NEVER had. Period.

This.

5 hours ago, East Coast Aztec said:

I haven't blamed fans, or desire.  But I am not going to say that facilities change everything either.  It is a mix of multiple factors.  Fans are by and large a consequence, not a determinant, of success.

As Poster 17 said, the lack of facilities and money is symptomatic of the institutional apathy that UNLV has had for football.  Not having a quality stadium and practice facilities has hurt UNLV,. but having an administration that is apathetic, or even antagonistic at times, has hurt much more.  Hopefully we are fixing both problems.

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4 hours ago, SharkTanked said:

Yup, it really boils down to money and spending priorities. Football was never the spending priority that hoops was for UNLV. As a result, the budget (coaches, training table, recruiting) suffered as did facilities. Some programs are lucky enough to have a good amount of success on the cheap (UNR, Hawaii), but most aren't granted this luck.

The "culture change" Sanchez seeks can't really come from him. It has to come from the top. So far a couple of our recent President's have talked a good game, and things have improved somewhat, but there is still a long ways to go.

People outside of Vegas, like the idiot NYC urban planner that wrote the Deadspin hitpiece, don't have a clue about the nuances of Las Vegas.  If the dummy was around in the 40's he would have wrote articles about how nobody in their right mind would travel to the middle of the Mojave just to gamble.  They just look at things in generalities based on their own experience in markets they live in or are familiar with.  UNLV and Las Vegas are not comparable to wherever you live or whatever D1 team is in that city. You can't compare a stadium built in a comparable market that isn't the entertainment capital of the world, without the tax revenue for the stadium being fully funded by non-residents.  Clark county residents and business owners are the players in this deal.   

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On 5/23/2017 at 11:41 PM, kalua pig said:

what is all that grey area between the stands and the field?

I think the Department of Truck Driving Studies uses it for practice during the week.

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November 24th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^

I'm looking forward to a new head coach who isn't a cud-chewing autistic retard.

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18 minutes ago, RoscoesDad said:

People outside of Vegas, like the idiot NYC urban planner that wrote the Deadspin hitpiece, don't have a clue about the nuances of Las Vegas.  If the dummy was around in the 40's he would have wrote articles about how nobody in their right mind would travel to the middle of the Mojave just to gamble.  They just look at things in generalities based on their own experience in markets they live in or are familiar with.  UNLV and Las Vegas are not comparable to wherever you live or whatever D1 team is in that city. You can't compare a stadium built in a comparable market that isn't the entertainment capital of the world, without the tax revenue for the stadium being fully funded by non-residents.  Clark county residents and business owners are the players in this deal.   

I was on twitter saying the same shit. These dudes from New York pretending they know about the Vegas economy.

We are spending $750 million of Californian's vacation money to open up a whole new can of worms as far as revenue sources. The economic impact will be a +++++ing bottle rocket.

Service industry jobs, public service, blue collar work, real estate and local businesses.

That tax was over 25% more than projected in March, it's 1st month.

13% more than projected in April, month 2.

The strip is expected to fill 97% of it's rooms this weekend.

We'll break even by year 15 at this pace, but still have all the benefits of the economic impact.

 

Build that bitch. They will come. We gotta keep the lights brighter and entertainment the best to bring in the most.

All is well, For Rice is gone.                  

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6 minutes ago, BestintheWest said:

I was on twitter saying the same shit. These dudes from New York pretending they know about the Vegas economy.

We are spending $750 million of Californian's vacation money to open up a whole new can of worms as far as revenue sources. The economic impact will be a +++++ing bottle rocket.

Service industry jobs, public service, blue collar work, real estate and local businesses.

That tax was over 25% more than projected in March, it's 1st month.

13% more than projected in April, month 2.

The strip is expected to fill 97% of it's rooms this weekend.

We'll break even by year 15 at this pace, but still have all the benefits of the economic impact.

 

Build that bitch. They will come. We gotta keep the lights brighter and entertainment the best to bring in the most.

Yes x 1000.

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7 minutes ago, BestintheWest said:

I was on twitter saying the same shit. These dudes from New York pretending they know about the Vegas economy.

 

In all fairness, it was dudes from New York and Chicago who created the Vegas economy.

SteelCityBlue

November 24th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^

I'm looking forward to a new head coach who isn't a cud-chewing autistic retard.

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2 minutes ago, Victor Maitlin said:

In all fairness, it was dudes from New York and Chicago who created the Vegas economy.

True, but it doesn't mean every schmuck with a pen from NY or Chicago an expert on the Vegas economy and how it turns.

All is well, For Rice is gone.                  

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5 hours ago, Victor Maitlin said:

In all fairness, it was dudes from New York and Chicago who created the Vegas economy.

Those were very different kinds of Chicago dudes.

 

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15 hours ago, Victor Maitlin said:

In all fairness, it was dudes from New York and Chicago who created the Vegas economy.

While that is true, those dudes haven't run Vegas since the mid-80s.  Vegas is a completely different monster now.

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