mundyc3 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, HoosierRebel said: If we snag Rafus I wonder if that pushes us into the top 10? This doesn't include Beck, Green, Smith either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph90702 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, mundyc3 said: This doesn't include Beck, Green, Smith either. The specific ranking doesn't matter. What matters is that we have the talent to compete nationally. It pained me to hear Dick Vitale say that we have limited talent when we play Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestintheWest Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, CockyUNLVPoster said: I think he is. That is ok. He got us out of a hole if you know what I'm talking about. He will add a lot of eyes to MWC games and he will draw future interest from good players. But, I'm one of those people that say if you can get the money go for it. I would love for him to stay as it only helps the program but, that's no longer the world we live in. Show me the money. I'd say he's 100% one and done barring injury. McCoy is better than Zimm at this point. He's bigger and stronger in the post and rebounding. Can hit the shot just as good as ZImm. Plus McCoy is playing for Menzies and Zimm was playing for Rice. Big difference there. McCoy almost averaged 20 and 20 has a HS sophomore. While D1 is a huge jump, he's gonna be an immediate guy like Bennett was. Zimm gave us 12 and 8. Bennett gave us 16 and 8. I think we see McCoy as a 15 and 10 guy. Maybe even better. Also him being one and done will only help UNLV recruiting wise. I laugh when people call Anthony Bennett a bust and thinks that makes UNLV look bad....UNLV got a player #1 overall in the NBA draft. That's all that matters, This school got him to that point. McCoy has a chance to be a lottery pick and that will help UNLV recruiting more 5 star talent. With Hardy and some others being 4 year guys...Menzies is having good balance too. Not the same as Rice calling 4-stars one and dones and having zero plan past the current year. Excited to see how the years unfold. All is well, For Rice is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas Reb Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, Rebels18 said: Said it for years, Dave Rice was not a master recruiter. LAS VEGAS and UNLV brand is what brought in the recruits. It killed me to see people afraid to fire Rice because they thought he was the draw bringing in recruits to UNLV. Disagree. CDR had a pitch and it was effective. He would basically state that he would lay out a roadmap and plan to get you to the NBA. It was highly effective. Unfortunately he built a team of individuals and then plagued by injuries and poor coaching. He's a good man. Just not HC material yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestintheWest Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Las Vegas Reb said: Disagree. CDR had a pitch and it was effective. He would basically state that he would lay out a roadmap and plan to get you to the NBA. It was highly effective. Unfortunately he built a team of individuals and then plagued by injuries and poor coaching. He's a good man. Just not HC material yet. His point was that people thought that only Rice could do that. Which is why we were held hostage by recruits for a couple years. Menzies debunks that myth. Rice was a great recruiter, but it wasn't some impossible feat. UNLV has a lot to offer D1 basketball players as a program. All is well, For Rice is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Rebels Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 So I guess Dembele is going to be redshirting? Diong came here so he could play, so I doubt he'd accept a redshirt, but Dembele taking another year and having three years of sound play left may be a good thing for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosegreen Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Las Vegas Reb said: Disagree. CDR had a pitch and it was effective. He would basically state that he would lay out a roadmap and plan to get you to the NBA. It was highly effective. Unfortunately he built a team of individuals and then plagued by injuries and poor coaching. He's a good man. Just not HC material yet. Correct. Rebel18 also forgets that CDR was recruiting at a high level not seen since Tark. Getting McDonald All-Americans and other 4*-5* out the wazoo wasn't happening post-Tark until Rice arrived. Bayno, Spoonhour, and Kruger to an extent were all disappointing recruiters because Rebel18 is right about selling the UNLV brand, its recognizable and has a history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph90702 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, Jersey Rebels said: So I guess Dembele is going to be redshirting? Diong came here so he could play, so I doubt he'd accept a redshirt, but Dembele taking another year and having three years of sound play left may be a good thing for him. He's going to be 21 next year, so I don't think he redshirts. We'll see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_chris Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 12 hours ago, RoscoesDad said: We need a scoring guard like Hardy more than Juiston imo. If we could get both that would be unreal. I'm late to the party but how about both ? I can't sing and I can't dance but I can make romance - Macho Man Randy Savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_chris Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Maybe the best part is watching the meltdown again on the Iowa St board, they just don't get it. They think you have to be paying kids to want to chose Vegas over Ames. There are a handful of cities in this conference I'd take over f*cking Ames. They're all idiots, they think UNLV has nothing to offer, they think you have to play in a big conference to be relevant (Butler, Wichita, VCU, Gonzaga, St Mary's, Dayton and Rhode Island all prove them wrong) they think UNLV doesn't have any history (how many FF banners hang in Ames) and they shit on any kid who goes to a school not named Iowa St. I can't sing and I can't dance but I can make romance - Macho Man Randy Savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosegreen Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, just_chris said: Maybe the best part is watching the meltdown again on the Iowa St board, they just don't get it. They think you have to be paying kids to want to chose Vegas over Ames. There are a handful of cities in this conference I'd take over f*cking Ames. I think every MWC city with the exception of Reno and Fresno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTGREATBOB! Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 My two concerns are: (1) who is (reliably) taking 3s for this team besides Mooring? and (2) what's the plan with getting Morgan minutes? Not that I would choose not to be in this situation, but these strike me as the primary concerns with the roster at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod_the_Rebel Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, just_chris said: Maybe the best part is watching the meltdown again on the Iowa St board, they just don't get it. They think you have to be paying kids to want to chose Vegas over Ames. There are a handful of cities in this conference I'd take over f*cking Ames. They're all idiots, they think UNLV has nothing to offer, they think you have to play in a big conference to be relevant (Butler, Wichita, VCU, Gonzaga, St Mary's, Dayton and Rhode Island all prove them wrong) they think UNLV doesn't have any history (how many FF banners hang in Ames) and they shit on any kid who goes to a school not named Iowa St. Just remember, it's Iowa. After you remember that it's F***ing Iowa, you can proceed to laugh and think about our legacy, facilities, location, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonkee Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, Rosegreen said: I think every MWC city with the exception of Reno and Fresno. I'd take Reno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonkee Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 "Did Vaughn ever get to the NBA?**** UNLV." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonkee Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 "Unlv has broke my top 5 for most hated teams" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_chris Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, toonkee said: "Did Vaughn ever get to the NBA?**** UNLV." You'd think those dumb bastards would know we have more players in the NBA then they do.... I guess when you win 20-25 games every year and fail to advance to the Sweet 16 year in and year out you'd be bitter I can't sing and I can't dance but I can make romance - Macho Man Randy Savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_chris Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, BestintheWest said: I'd say he's 100% one and done barring injury. McCoy is better than Zimm at this point. He's bigger and stronger in the post and rebounding. Can hit the shot just as good as ZImm. Plus McCoy is playing for Menzies and Zimm was playing for Rice. Big difference there. McCoy almost averaged 20 and 20 has a HS sophomore. While D1 is a huge jump, he's gonna be an immediate guy like Bennett was. Zimm gave us 12 and 8. Bennett gave us 16 and 8. I think we see McCoy as a 15 and 10 guy. Maybe even better. Also him being one and done will only help UNLV recruiting wise. I laugh when people call Anthony Bennett a bust and thinks that makes UNLV look bad....UNLV got a player #1 overall in the NBA draft. That's all that matters, This school got him to that point. McCoy has a chance to be a lottery pick and that will help UNLV recruiting more 5 star talent. With Hardy and some others being 4 year guys...Menzies is having good balance too. Not the same as Rice calling 4-stars one and dones and having zero plan past the current year. Excited to see how the years unfold. Yup.... Anthony Bennett chose not to work hard, not UNLV I can't sing and I can't dance but I can make romance - Macho Man Randy Savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph90702 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, NOTGREATBOB! said: My two concerns are: (1) who is (reliably) taking 3s for this team besides Mooring? and (2) what's the plan with getting Morgan minutes? Not that I would choose not to be in this situation, but these strike me as the primary concerns with the roster at this point. My primary concern is the lack of guards. With the bigs, there will be redshirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTR Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Hopefully, this means I can retire this meme from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
