Jackrabbit Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 It is educators favorite time of the year, standardized testing. Teachers work to motivate their kids in many different ways to do their very best. Someone close to me teaches 4th grade. This teacher, a liberal democrat, told me that one of the top students made it known that they were not going to do well on purpose. This is because the the kid said that it is the same thing as bullying classmates. The kid does not want to stand out as being different. Well done liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Fun Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, Jackrabbit said: It is educators favorite time of the year, standardized testing. Teachers work to motivate their kids in many different ways to do their very best. Someone close to me teaches 4th grade. This teacher, a liberal democrat, told me that one of the top students made it known that they were not going to do well on purpose. This is because the the kid said that it is the same thing as bullying classmates. The kid does not want to stand out as being different. Well done liberals. Cool story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 34 minutes ago, Fort Fun said: Cool story. True Story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jackrabbit Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 Didn't think there would be any honest discussion here. The laughable thing (sad for the students) is that the teacher is now upset because standardized testing reflects teacher performance in the classroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Jackrabbit said: It is educators favorite time of the year, standardized testing. Teachers work to motivate their kids in many different ways to do their very best. Someone close to me teaches 4th grade. This teacher, a liberal democrat, told me that one of the top students made it known that they were not going to do well on purpose. This is because the the kid said that it is the same thing as bullying classmates. The kid does not want to stand out as being different. Well done liberals. Sounds like a parenting issue. Or the kid just wants the attention. Everybody loves to be a martyr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Aztec Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Jackrabbit said: It is educators favorite time of the year, standardized testing. Teachers work to motivate their kids in many different ways to do their very best. Someone close to me teaches 4th grade. This teacher, a liberal democrat, told me that one of the top students made it known that they were not going to do well on purpose. This is because the the kid said that it is the same thing as bullying classmates. The kid does not want to stand out as being different. Well done liberals. I am not a fan of stanardized, but him getting bullied would happen since his grades are likely higher than others anyway, wouldn't it? Heaven forbid curved grading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtang Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Our education system is a joke. It's tailored to the teachers and not the students. Standardized tests are pointless. Students should be taught based on how they learn best not how the government says they should learn. 5 Quote thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Fun Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, Jackrabbit said: Didn't think there would be any honest discussion here. Maybe because your story is just a single anecdote from one classroom that you're stretching to make into a larger liberal/conservative issue. My nephew scored very well on his standardized tests and his mother had to tell him to stop telling other kids his scores because it was making his classmates feel bad. GOD DAMN LIBERALS!!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph90702 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Standardized testing is a joke. I always did poorly on those, and my friend did really well. When it came to actual learning, the results were flipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSUMFA2013 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 5 hours ago, mugtang said: Our education system is a joke. It's tailored to the teachers and not the students. Standardized tests are pointless. Students should be taught based on how they learn best not how the government says they should learn. No worthwhile teacher wants to teach to those stupid tests. They're a mechanism to make kids hate school and avoid learning later in life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestintheWest Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Thought you just spelled "Whining" wrong. Quote All is well, For Rice is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofMTigers Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 13 hours ago, ph90702 said: Standardized testing is a joke. I always did poorly on those, and my friend did really well. When it came to actual learning, the results were flipped. lol, I remember my parents telling me to get every question on the ASVAB wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCDigger Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 How is this remotely a liberal thing? Pretty sure it was a conservative strategy to hide themselves in the masses to avoid pollsters. Republicans and Democrats alike are not in favor of standardized testing. Who is "pro-bullying"? Thread title fail 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Am I the only one in favor of standardized testing? I loved taking those things; it was homework and projects that I hated. How else are we going to compare students, classes, schools, and states? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, renoskier said: Am I the only one in favor of standardized testing? I loved taking those things; it was homework and projects that I hated. How else are we going to compare students, classes, schools, and states? Nope. I loved them. Used to crush the shit out of them. 5 Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomascows Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, Joe from WY said: How can you anyway. Even within states. In districts even. It's dumb to compare students who come from upper crust families with libraries full of books and parental involvement with those who don't know where they are sleeping tonight. I would be more for progression testing. The class would be tested on day 1 of the school year and then at the end of the year to show relative progression. You could throw out the top and bottom 5% of scores and then see the relative progression of the class as a whole. You have to be very careful about using testing to measure teacher performance but I have never heard of a very "fair" way to evaluate teachers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Aztec Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, nomascows said: I would be more for progression testing. The class would be tested on day 1 of the school year and then at the end of the year to show relative progression. You could throw out the top and bottom 5% of scores and then see the relative progression of the class as a whole. You have to be very careful about using testing to measure teacher performance but I have never heard of a very "fair" way to evaluate teachers. The immediate issue is that teachers will see this as pure "Teach to the exam". Even the teachers I know don't like standardized tests, as it essentially structures the curriculum. But you can bet your bottom dollar their kids won't be the worst test scores in the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, renoskier said: Am I the only one in favor of standardized testing? I loved taking those things; it was homework and projects that I hated. How else are we going to compare students, classes, schools, and states? Same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_SD_Dude Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 18 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Everybody loves to be a martyr. Especially the OP. 5 Quote Thay Haif Said: Quhat Say Thay? Lat Thame Say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...