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5 minutes ago, pokebball said:

Wyo's in both so we're a push dingleberry

Which ever conference Wyoming's not in is the better conference.  

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Just now, Warbow said:

Which ever conference Wyoming's not in is the better conference.  

So Montana and Montana State join the MWC, replacing Hawaii and SJSU and it's a win-win for Wyoming and Hawaii!  Isn't this what I proposed.  Let's both sign and move on!

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28 minutes ago, pokebball said:

So Montana and Montana State join the MWC, replacing Hawaii and SJSU and it's a win-win for Wyoming and Hawaii!  Isn't this what I proposed.  Let's both sign and move on!

No, the best for the MWC would be to kick out Wyoming, Utah St and San Jose St. and add BYU, Gonzaga and Wichita St.

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21 minutes ago, Warbow said:

No, the best for the MWC would be to kick out Wyoming, Utah St and San Jose St. and add BYU, Gonzaga and Wichita St.

but Hawaii would still be in the MWC and Hawaii would still be paying all those travel subs.  That's a lose - lose for both the MWC and Hawaii.

I think Hawaii needs to go indy and get out from under those travel subs to us MWC.  That's the only win - win for everyone.  Of course Montana and Montana St. could be icing on the cake for the MWC.

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7 minutes ago, pokebball said:

but Hawaii would still be in the MWC and Hawaii would still be paying all those travel subs.  That's a lose - lose for both the MWC and Hawaii.

I think Hawaii needs to go indy and get out from under those travel subs to us MWC.  That's the only win - win for everyone.  Of course Montana and Montana St. could be icing on the cake for the MWC.

Don't expect San Diego St, Boise St., Nevada, UNLV, Air Force, Colorado St and Fresno St to hang around the MWC with the additions of Montana and Montana St. They may just disband the MWC and form a new conference with Hawaii and BYU and let the FCS conferences fight it out over who gets Wyoming, San Jose St and Utah St.

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Just now, Warbow said:

Don't expect San Diego St, Boise St., Nevada, UNLV, Air Force, Colorado St and Fresno St to hang around the MWC with the additions of Montana and Montana St. They may just break off the MWC and form a new conference with Hawaii and BYU.

I'm pretty sure all would want them over Hawaii and SJSU.  Stop hitching your wagon to BYU.

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3 minutes ago, pokebball said:

I'm pretty sure all would want them over Hawaii and SJSU.  Stop hitching your wagon to BYU.

Sorry I have to use BYU. It's the only other school besides Hawaii, UNLV and San Diego St. that has any hope of making this new conference a P-6 conference.

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On 3/22/2017 at 7:30 PM, LaradiseCowboy said:

I guess with that mentality it would be reasonable to assume that you aspire to be a punching bag somewhere in a beloved P5 conference. When you get there you'll be in great company with the likes of Kansas, Vanderbilt, Iowa State, Illinois, and Syracuse. If that's what you're aiming for, then by all means, you can have it! Dynasties aren't built by TV contracts and delusional homer fan bases, they're directly associated with your ability to have success on Saturdays. By the way, there are plenty of Wyoming fans outside the state of Wyoming. You know, real fans that haven't been bought and sold by ESPN. So give us a call when you get your P5 invite to schedule a game. We'll be happy to make a trip to Hawaii to beat you in front of a larger national audience. 

Hawaii has a way better history with football than those schools.

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These topics are stupid because they always turn into an argument of why YOUR school deserves to stay and someone else's should be kicked out.

As someone else pointed out, there's nothing wrong with the current MW, we just need the schools to step it up.

The MW has the best D1 schools available right now. 

Nevada winning the MW was good for our conference, it's just too bad they became a one and done like Fresno State.

But what we need is for UNLV, New Mexico, and SDSU to get back to those glory days of being a consistent threat in basketball.

On the football side, we need all the schools to step it up big time. 

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The MWC squandered its opportunity at big time status by refusing invites to BSU after 2007* and UH after 2008. The MWC thought they could impose a set of standards on entrants but those standards were holding back the conference from fielding multiple BCS contenders who could regularly beat out BCS schools in the non conference. Utah, using its leverage as a multiple BCS champion, fit nicely into the Pac 10's backup plan after the super conference idea failed. The only hope the MWC had at keeping Utah (and therefore the band) together was to field a national champion caliber conference which only could've happened in a conference that included Utah, BSU, TCU, UNR, UH, FSU, Houston and BYU - teams that could get victories in the non conference against BCS opposition.

If the MWC became a national champion conference and contender, then perhaps Utah, TCU, and BYU reconsider moving on.

 

*Now that I think about it, BSU nearly beat Louisville in 2004's Liberty Bowl and was already a famous ESPN off day college football option. We could've added them around the same time as TCU.

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BYU, not sure if you know this but the WCC tourney is in Vegas too... What conf will you join when you can't win that one anymore?

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39 minutes ago, ZK686 said:

These topics are stupid because they always turn into an argument of why YOUR school deserves to stay and someone else's should be kicked out.

As someone else pointed out, there's nothing wrong with the current MW, we just need the schools to step it up.

The MW has the best D1 schools available right now. 

Nevada winning the MW was good for our conference, it's just too bad they became a one and done like Fresno State.

But what we need is for UNLV, New Mexico, and SDSU to get back to those glory days of being a consistent threat in basketball.

On the football side, we need all the schools to step it up big time. 

You're asking the impossible. Sure schools like Wyoming, Utah St and San Jose St may have a good season once every 20 years.

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3 minutes ago, Runnin'Redneck said:

The MWC squandered its opportunity at big time status by refusing invites to BSU after 2007* and UH after 2008. The MWC thought they could impose a set of standards on entrants but those standards were holding back the conference from fielding multiple BCS contenders who could regularly beat out BCS schools in the non conference. Utah, using its leverage as a multiple BCS champion, fit nicely into the Pac 10's backup plan after the super conference idea failed. The only hope the MWC had at keeping Utah (and therefore the band) together was to field a national champion caliber conference which only could've happened in a conference that included Utah, BSU, TCU, UNR, UH, FSU, Houston and BYU - teams that could get victories in the non conference against BCS opposition.

If the MWC became a national champion conference and contender, then perhaps Utah, TCU, and BYU reconsider moving on.

 

*Now that I think about it, BSU nearly beat Louisville in 2004's Liberty Bowl and was already a famous ESPN off day college football option. We could've added them around the same time as TCU.

This is what the MWC should have looked like after 2008.

MTN

1. BYU

2. Utah

3. Air Force

4. New Mexico

5. Colorado St.

6. TCU

WEST

1. Boise St.

2. Hawaii

3. UNLV

4. San Diego St.

5. Fresno St.

6. Nevada

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20 minutes ago, Bob said:

LOL @Warbow. Hawaii should be kicked out of this conference and left at the curb. They bring absolutely nothing, but a shitty road trip. 

Your wife seemed to enjoy us

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14 minutes ago, LaradiseCowboy said:

Hey douche, we won the mountain division in 2016. 

That means your next one is in 2046, hope you're alive to enjoy it

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