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12 hours ago, badfish said:

That is so deceiving as to demand calling it BS. The StubHub Center in Carson holds 27K and doesn't even have a second deck. That "rendering" is for a stadium of more like 35K-37K. If FSI would actually commit to something like that with SDSU getting some additional land as was speculated about the FSI-SDSU talks for many months, a deal would get done. (BTW, compare the sideline distances. Smh at the slipshod job.)

Boom goes the dynamite.

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21 hours ago, k5james said:

They don't have to have a legit plan to torpedo this one.  Sudberry who has the Civita development being the one with the biggest gripe.  He had to jump through hoops to get Civita finally approved and now FSI is getting to fast track direct competition for Civita without a public vote?  I don't see him taking that standing still.

Civita is an absurdly dense development. That's why they had to "jump through hoops".  They are selling 3-story 2200sq' homes with 700sq' footprints stacked so closely you can smell your neighbor's farts, all for the low low price of $800,000 and up.  NOTHING planned on the Qualcomm lot comes even close to the Civita densities.  Same with Fenton.  Not a single solitary leg to stand on given the combined veal pen/rabbit warren they tossed together on the north side of Friars.  If your concern is development density, Fenton and Sudbury are your worst nightmares. But I have news for all of the out-of-towners; San Diego has a deliberate  strategy for development going forward they call "Densification".  What this means is that zoning restrictions are changing to allow for denser development and "infills" are allowed to be even denser.  You can see its results all over town. Density is now seen as, if not a good thing, a necessary evil  to accommodate a 5% population growth rate in a geographically limited area.

This thing will come to a public (50%+1) vote in a special election and it will in all probability pass. SDSU needs to get on board.

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7 minutes ago, SDSUfan said:

Civita is an absurdly dense development. That's why they had to "jump through hoops".  They are selling 3-story 2200sq' homes with 700sq' footprints stacked so closely you can smell your neighbor's farts, all for the low low price of $800,000 and up.  NOTHING planned on the Qualcomm lot comes even close to the Civita densities.  Same with Fenton.  Not a single solitary leg to stand on given the combined veal pen/rabbit warren they tossed together on the north side of Friars.  If your concern is development density, Fenton and Sudbury are your worst nightmares. But I have news for all of the out-of-towners; San Diego has a deliberate  strategy for development going forward they call "Densification".  What this means is that zoning restrictions are changing to allow for denser development and "infills" are allowed to be even denser.  You can see its results all over town. Density is now seen as, if not a good thing, a necessary evil  to accommodate a 5% population growth rate in a geographically limited area.

This thing will come to a public (50%+1) vote in a special election and it will in all probability pass. SDSU needs to get on board.

Talk about fantasy land.  No, they had to jump through hoops because ALL development in San Diego has to jump through hoops...unless you try and grease the skids like FSI is attempting.  FSI has already said they don't have time for a public vote.  50% +1 is anything but a sure thing once the big guys like Sudburry and Fenton start throwing their money behind opposition along with SDSU's unofficial opposition.  FSI needs to get on board.

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48 minutes ago, k5james said:

Talk about fantasy land.  No, they had to jump through hoops because ALL development in San Diego has to jump through hoops...unless you try and grease the skids like FSI is attempting.  FSI has already said they don't have time for a public vote.  50% +1 is anything but a sure thing once the big guys like Sudburry and Fenton start throwing their money behind opposition along with SDSU's unofficial opposition.  FSI needs to get on board.

You have to give FSI credit. In just a few weeks they've managed to scare a bunch of Aztecs into submission.

Boom goes the dynamite.

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6 minutes ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

You have to give FSI credit. In just a few weeks they've managed to scare a bunch of Aztecs into submission.

Yeah it's funny to see these pussies wave the white flag already.

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2 hours ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

That is so deceiving as to demand calling it BS. The StubHub Center in Carson holds 27K and doesn't even have a second deck. 

 

 

That's going to be a surprise to the folks in Carson.

 

 

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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2 hours ago, RSF said:

No...both sides.

 

 

 

And...Do you go to San Diego State games?

Not gonna argue with you over the first point. For one thing, it's now moot.

Regarding your second point, I've had season seats for 18 years but have no idea why your little mind thinks that's relevant.

Now it's my turn to ask a question. What loser Molehill West school did YOU graduate from?

Boom goes the dynamite.

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Athletic Director John David Wicker estimated that the campus could build its own football stadium, costing up to $150 million

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But seriously, it's been fascinating to watch CSU, SDSU, and UNLV try to get new stadiums and the different paths they've had to take. SDSU definitely has more hurdles to clear than their counterparts, I hope they get it done.

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2 hours ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

Not gonna argue with you over the first point. For one thing, it's now moot.

Regarding your second point, I've had season seats for 18 years but have no idea why your little mind thinks that's relevant.

Now it's my turn to ask a question. What loser Molehill West school did YOU graduate from?

He's a SDSU grad...

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Actual average attendance last year was 25,600 (versus 37,000 tickets dispersed). Maybe a $150 million, ~30k erector set stadium + playing Sky Show games at Petco is the way to go. (Especially if that means telling FSI to pound sand.)

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/columnists/kevin-acee/sd-sp-sdsu-0321-story.html

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http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/wicker-sdsu-could-build-football-stadium-its-own?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Top25

 

SAN DIEGO (AP) — Athletic director John David Wicker says San Diego State is prepared to build a new football stadium on its own if it isn't involved in a billion-dollar development that would include a stadium for an MLS team.

The university has concerns with the SoccerCity concept, including the proposed size of the stadium. The Aztecs would like a stadium that seats between 35,000 and 40,000.

Wicker and other SDSU officials met Tuesday with Mayor Kevin Faulconer.

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Says Wicker: "If we needed to today, we could go out and build our own football stadium."

He estimated the cost at between $125 million and $150 million.

Time is critical because with the NFL's Chargers leaving for Los Angeles, aging Qualcomm Stadium could be shut down by 2018.

Baseball's Petco Park could be a temporary home for SDSU and the Holiday Bowl.

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5 hours ago, Fort Fun said:

Actual average attendance last year was 25,600 (versus 37,000 tickets dispersed). Maybe a $150 million, ~30k erector set stadium + playing Sky Show games at Petco is the way to go. (Especially if that means telling FSI to pound sand.)

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/columnists/kevin-acee/sd-sp-sdsu-0321-story.html

Very misleading article. Obviously reported attendance will always be more than actual as well as paid attendance. However, this attendance does not include the Students, since they are pre-paid, nor does it include the freebies (such as High School bands). Yes, splitting hairs here, but I find it astounding that the SD Media continually attacks SDSU. This author is the same idiot that keeps calling out Rocky and says he should be fired.

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