retrofade Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 75 years ago, signed one of the most disturbing violations of due process, civil rights, and human decency into law --- Executive Order 9066. As a result of this executive order, over 120,000 Japanese men, women, and children were detained in internment caps. Of these 120,000, approximately 70,000 were United States Citizens. There were also approximately 15,000 citizens of German and Italian origin who were interred; the majority of which were also citizens. It was certainly a dark day in our history as far as I'm concerned. A day the likes of which I hope we will never see again. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofMTigers Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, retrofade said: 75 years ago, signed one of the most disturbing violations of due process, civil rights, and human decency into law --- Executive Order 9066. As a result of this executive order, over 120,000 Japanese men, women, and children were detained in internment caps. Of these 120,000, approximately 70,000 were United States Citizens. There were also approximately 15,000 citizens of German and Italian origin who were interred; the majority of which were also citizens. It was certainly a dark day in our history as far as I'm concerned. A day the likes of which I hope we will never see again. I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslowhiteguy Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, retrofade said: 75 years ago, signed one of the most disturbing violations of due process, civil rights, and human decency into law --- Executive Order 9066. As a result of this executive order, over 120,000 Japanese men, women, and children were detained in internment caps. Of these 120,000, approximately 70,000 were United States Citizens. There were also approximately 15,000 citizens of German and Italian origin who were interred; the majority of which were also citizens. It was certainly a dark day in our history as far as I'm concerned. A day the likes of which I hope we will never see again. To the best of my limited knowledge regarding EO's, that order remains the most egregious of them all. The one we should all be proud of and point to as a shining example of how EO's can be very beneficial, is the Emancipation Proclamation. 1 Quote "Don't underestimate Joe Biden's ability to F@*k things up." Barack Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 It's purported that the Star Wars Jedi Extermination Order --- 66 --- was a reference to this particularly low point in our history. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easybronc Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, retrofade said: 75 years ago, signed one of the most disturbing violations of due process, civil rights, and human decency into law --- Executive Order 9066. As a result of this executive order, over 120,000 Japanese men, women, and children were detained in internment caps. Of these 120,000, approximately 70,000 were United States Citizens. There were also approximately 15,000 citizens of German and Italian origin who were interred; the majority of which were also citizens. It was certainly a dark day in our history as far as I'm concerned. A day the likes of which I hope we will never see again. Pearl Harbor put people in shock and they overreacted. We learned from that and moved on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, easybronc said: Pearl Harbor put people in shock and they overreacted. We learned from that and moved on. It's just as simple as that, isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysfit Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, retrofade said: 75 years ago, signed one of the most disturbing violations of due process, civil rights, and human decency into law --- Executive Order 9066. As a result of this executive order, over 120,000 Japanese men, women, and children were detained in internment caps. Of these 120,000, approximately 70,000 were United States Citizens. There were also approximately 15,000 citizens of German and Italian origin who were interred; the majority of which were also citizens. It was certainly a dark day in our history as far as I'm concerned. A day the likes of which I hope we will never see again. I grew up believing we had learned from that episode and were better than that. But I no longer believe that. I was wrong all this time. http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/18/opinions/george-takei-japanese-american-internment-day-of-remembrance/index.html Quote One of the Final Five.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mano Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, easybronc said: Pearl Harbor put people in shock and they overreacted. We learned from that and moved on. 9-11 put people in shock and they are still overreacting. We need to learn from that and move on. 2 Quote I'm a desperate man Send lawyers, guns, and money The shit has hit the fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester_in_reno Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Indeed, this was an awful episode. reasons? (among others) a racist society, fear, and the anger about Pearl harbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easybronc Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 If you believe that putting Japanese Americans into internment camps is remotely similar to vetting immigrants and deporting illegal aliens then you are living in an alternate reality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngredbullfan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Donald Trump Says He Might Have Supported Japanese Internment http://time.com/4140050/donald-trump-muslims-japanese-internment/ Japanese American internment is ‘precedent’ for national Muslim registry, prominent Trump backer says https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/17/japanese-internment-is-precedent-for-national-muslim-registry-prominent-trump-backer-says/?client=safari 1 Quote On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said: I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite. 28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslowhiteguy Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, youngrebelfan40 said: Donald Trump Says He Might Have Supported Japanese Internment http://time.com/4140050/donald-trump-muslims-japanese-internment/ Japanese American internment is ‘precedent’ for national Muslim registry, prominent Trump backer says https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/17/japanese-internment-is-precedent-for-national-muslim-registry-prominent-trump-backer-says/?client=safari Did you even bother to read the article before you linked it.? Fake headline = Fake news. Quote "Don't underestimate Joe Biden's ability to F@*k things up." Barack Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactowndog Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 55 minutes ago, Aslowhiteguy said: Did you even bother to read the article before you linked it.? Fake headline = Fake news. It might make everyone feel better if you acknowledge some on your side would support such crap but the majority are more reasonable then that and would stop it. I once contributed to McCain's Presidential campaign before he went full right wing. Now we are relying on him again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester_in_reno Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 FWIW I had a history thread with a lot of pictures posted but the Admin cut me off. People here like history, this is an educated forum. But according to the admin........... F_U Bandwidth limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 11 hours ago, sactowndog said: It might make everyone feel better if you acknowledge some on your side would support such crap but the majority are more reasonable then that and would stop it. I once contributed to McCain's Presidential campaign before he went full right wing. Now we are relying on him again If you listen to the self-declared "real" conservatives, McCain is a moderate who has more in common with the Democrats than he does the Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 Just now, Joe from WY said: He's part of the uniparty. He's an establishment schmuck. I don't disagree with you on that one. I just find it amusing how the different "factions" view him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngredbullfan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Joe from WY said: He's right in a sense. The rationale laid out in Korematsu probably does justify something like that. Whether it will happen or not is a totally different question. Possibly, but doesn't Zadvydas v. Davis spell out that even illegal immigrants and have rights to due process? That and Plyler, Almedia-Sanchez v. United States, etc. spell out some 14th amendment protections for them if I'm not mistaken. That's not even mentioning Muslim citizens or legal residents. Something like internment could probably never happen again, legally at least. Quote On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said: I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite. 28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Joe from WY said: They used the rationale that it was for "national security". Think of how that could be extrapolated if there was another, say, catastrophic terror attack. It certainly could happen again. I don't know that it will, but it could. That's something that has crossed my mind more than once lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofMTigers Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 17 hours ago, Mano said: 9-11 put people in shock and they are still overreacting. We need to learn from that and move on. I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofMTigers Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, retrofade said: If you listen to the self-declared "real" conservatives, McCain is a moderate who has more in common with the Democrats than he does the Republicans. if you gave me a choice between Trump, Romney, or McCain this time around...I'd pick McCain, and it's not even a tough choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...