halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, roughrider said: Huff's OL's have been pushed back by short, underweight DL's since forever. I'll take the attitude of Seawards over anything I've seen on our OL for a few seasons. We will know if is the type of player we were recruiting or the coaching they are getting in the next two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughrider Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: We will know if is the type of player we were recruiting or the coaching they are getting in the next two years. Partially at least. I think if you recruit a road grader, you don't have to teach that mindset; like we got with Paradis. Something Huff is clearly incapable of teaching. For his nice guy style of coaching, he has to have tough guys to start with IMO. Big, tall nice kids haven't panned out so well as a unit. Even with some going to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanforHeisman Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, roughrider said: Partially at least. I think if you recruit a road grader, you don't have to teach that mindset; like we got with Paradis. Something Huff is clearly incapable of teaching. For his nice guy style of coaching, he has to have tough guys to start with IMO. Big, tall nice kids haven't panned out so well as a unit. Even with some going to the NFL. Yup.. We've probably put more OL in the NFL than any MWC school but haven't had a great unit in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badfish Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Yea. Our 3 other guys are 6'5 plus though. Seawards is 6'3-6'4 depending on where you look (which means 6'3). However I am glad we are taking a page out of SDSU's book and going after big mean nasty's instead of light quick projects we hope to build up. Seems like those bigger guys have a different attitude then the athletic projects of the Pete era. I mean our O-lines have not sucked, but unlike SDSU when we need 1 or 2 yards we fail to get push more often than not. Hopefully the different type of player we are recruiting the last few years helps. That was the problem before the Hoke/Rocky era. We had soft ass OL, but always had skull players. Amazing what nasty OL who love to run the ball can do. He definitely fits that category. Hopefully for you he can pass block worth a damn, which we couldn't last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowl Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 The problem with big, physical OL is that they are often deficient in pass pro. That's the benefit you guys had from going to a lighter, more athletic OL. Statistically your OL was one of the best in the country (18th) in pass pro giving up a sack on just 4.1% of pass attempts. SDSU's was one of the worst (119th) at 9.7%. It really depends on your offensive system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, Fowl said: The problem with big, physical OL is that they are often deficient in pass pro. That's the benefit you guys had from going to a lighter, more athletic OL. Statistically your OL was one of the best in the country (18th) in pass pro giving up a sack on just 4.1% of pass attempts. SDSU's was one of the worst (119th) at 9.7%. It really depends on your offensive system. That stat is somewhat misleading. We have really good pass protecting TE's that were in to block on most passing downs. Usually had 6-7 sometimes as many 9 blockers and banked that Sperbeck or Wilson could get separation. When I think of elite O-lines I think of our 2006 o-line. Filled with maulers that would blow back opponents D-line yet great in pass protection. Our o-line manhandled Oklahoma's D-line in the Fiesta bowl that year. They played mean, By the 4h quarter D-lines just did not want to line up anymore. They physically punished guys. Now in the 4th quarter D-lines are licking their lips against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowl Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I do agree that is a bit misleading particularly since your offense has your QB get rid of the ball very quickly and the QB is mostly in the gun. But that doesn't account for the difference against other teams. Plus I watched all but two of your games this year and I don't recall seeing 8 man protections at all. You guys spread the ball around to your RBs and TEs a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanforHeisman Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 It's been a few years since I've been confident we can get a 4th and 1 and that's with Pro Bowl running backs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Fowl said: I do agree that is a bit misleading particularly since your offense has your QB get rid of the ball very quickly and the QB is mostly in the gun. But that doesn't account for the difference against other teams. Plus I watched all but two of your games this year and I don't recall seeing 8 man protections at all. You guys spread the ball around to your RBs and TEs a lot. All TE's combined for 29 receptions despite our frequent use of 2 and 3 TE sets. McNichols got some balls but his targets significantly decreased as the year went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanforHeisman Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Well Seawards just got a UCLA offer. His fellow OL is committed there. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 Crap. I was afraid UCLA was going to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 One week from tomorrow is signing day...can't come soon enough. I see we have offered *** WR Damon Cole...has offers from half the MW but that's it. Must be out of SDSU's league since they haven't offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoggFather Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Kid has grade and attitude issues. DeRuyter staff offered him, but Tedford's crew eliminated him for those reasons. Has some talent...but has baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanforHeisman Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, bsu_alum9 said: One week from tomorrow is signing day...can't come soon enough. I see we have offered *** WR Damon Cole...has offers from half the MW but that's it. Must be out of SDSU's league since they haven't offered. Think we are getting desperate at WR. Thomas is a stud with big offers but we need a tall guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 44 minutes ago, TheDoggFather said: Kid has grade and attitude issues. DeRuyter staff offered him, but Tedford's crew eliminated him for those reasons. Has some talent...but has baggage. Panic offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 46 minutes ago, TheDoggFather said: Kid has grade and attitude issues. DeRuyter staff offered him, but Tedford's crew eliminated him for those reasons. Has some talent...but has baggage. Do you have any links btw, I believe you I just want to read about it if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoggFather Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I don't have any links, just what I heard from someone on Fresno's staff...for whatever that is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 UNM's offered him, but Bob Davie's known for taking decent, but wayward children and applying a motivational boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Decommit from 2016 class...Ali'i Niumatalolo - son of Navy's coach. I had heard he was on an LDS mission? But apparently decommitted on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badfish Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, bsu_alum9 said: One week from tomorrow is signing day...can't come soon enough. I see we have offered *** WR Damon Cole...has offers from half the MW but that's it. Must be out of SDSU's league since they haven't offered. we offer A LOT of WRs, but I'm happy with who we got now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...