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  1. I think the overall idea is to get the revenue from regional sports networks in the markets that MWC schools are located in (ROOT would be the biggest but Fox Sports in San Diego and NBC Sports in the Bay area would have interest) so that there is an option with total MW control over kick off times that is more or less equal in revenue to the amount that CBS and ESPN are paying for MW content. The more legitimate that CBS and ESPN think this is, the more they have to make it worth the Mountain West's time to broadcast on their network. "Window 4" is what ESPN calls the 7PM PT/10 PM EST time slot. This is the fourth among their prime time slots and they need to fill that with something. I know the Pac 12 is asking for more than the MW is for that time slot and BYU could muck things up, but overall the MW has the ability to call ESPN's bluff because the MW can get up from the table while ESPN has to have something in that slot and they make WAY more money on a MW game than a pac 12 game. Thompson referring to national distribution i.e. ESPN as being the equivalent of a free website is a decent troll. ESPN is mostly a website with videoclips that is ad supported i.e. free. ESPN tries to get conferences to sign for next to nothing because 'exposure' is what the conference gets and in many cases the conferences think that there really are these intangible, non-monetary benefits to play FBS (e.g. CUSA, MAC, Sun Belt) on ESPN for the same nominal amount that ESPN pays FCS teams. If the MW can get enough revenue from RSNs they can tell ESPN to take a hike. The Mountain West as a region would make the most sense of any place in the United States where purchasing a satellite to get the regional sports network for a college football conference now that there is the SEC, Big Ten network et al. ESPN should get serious and narrow the gap with the Pac 12 to better reflect the not huge difference between the overall quality of the Pac 12 and MW conferences apart from the very top programs.
  2. California is still the land of opportunity in this respect. If there is a will there is a way.
  3. No one in California takes the ACT because the University of California requires both the SAT I and the SAT II subject tests. I believe that the real difference between whether USNWR considers a school 'national' or 'regional' must have something to do with the ACT and that could be why Cal Poly SLO, Cal Poly Pomona and SJSU are the three highest ranked regional public universities in the west according to USNWR. I believe the ACT is used in midwestern states but I don't know which ones. California students don't take the ACT so using that test as a basis to compare the quality with other states admissions is flawed due to sampling bias. You take the ACT if you aren't happy with your SAT score in California; the people who just took the SAT once and were satisfied with their options given GPA and score combo aren't taking the ACT in California. Each CSU campus is funded, per pupil, equal to Wyoming which is the 'flagship' of their state or to the funding that Nevada and UNLV get. However, at a CSU campus undergraduates are taught by professors and post docs, as opposed to graduate student teaching assistants who do most of the actual teaching at Wyoming, UNLV and Nevada. I would note that the additional time for research and grunt work that graduate students earning PhDs hasn't been enough to put Wyoming, UNLV or Nevada in the conversation for a top 50 public university more than it has San Diego State. The real losers are undergraduates at Wyoming, UNLV or Nevada who don't get to work with experienced faculty like at a California State University or be taught by graduate students doing cutting edge research like at a University of California. There are 23 CSU campuses and they all have admission standards based on the top third of California high school graduate achievement. Admission standards are even higher at the top tier (SDSU, SJSU, Fresno, Cal Poly SLO, Long Beach). You are thinking of Boise State if you want to get on your high horse about a City State university and you are a MW alumnus/fan. A comparison of the three CSU universities in the MW and the other member schools shows they are clearly the top of the conference. Nevada and UNLV get about 60% of the funding that CSUs do and that is sure to be cut to pay for the Raiders stadium when the optimistic projected aren't reached and the state of Nevada has to pay general fund tax dollars to the Raiders, plus California provides reciprocal in state tuition to Nevadans who are admitted to UC and CSU schools while Nevada and UNLV get to be the top party schools for California high school students (after SDSU and Hawaii of course) . Hawaii needs a good relationship with Cal State above all else because their unique Big West and MW split is acceptable to both conferences because Cal State has the largest block in both conferences (note that UCSD lost its effort to get into the Big West). Colorado State has to have the biggest complex about Cal State universities because they have to constantly explain to people that they didn't go to school in California; Colorado uses 'CU' rather than 'UC' in a similar way and Colorado State just follows what the Bufallo are doing already. They are ranked higher so there is a built in humble brag. I have no illusion that non-Cal State fans and posters will start respecting Cal States, but I'm hopeful that at least the intra family fighting that so pains me to see. The Cal State partisans on this board should realize that they are the biggest voting block and are, by far, the biggest institution that forms the key component of the modern Mountain West. If this is your prison, you all should be running this yard as the biggest prison gang.
  4. When Fremont High plays Washington, the rosters are the most perplexing things you've ever seen. Go to maxprep and check it out. If your point is that Asians don't like football, my point is that in Fremont there are a bunch who do. Driving to downtown San Jose, even from Fremont or Hayward, is a pain in the ass that keeps people in the East Bay from going to SJSU games because its at the center of the South Bay's traffic nightmare. BART in and out of there lets you get drunk, have fun and get home without hassle. Many people, including Asians, will do this and it will address the oft criticized home attendance problems. Honestly, scheduling midweek "window 4" games at San Jose is a guarantee of low attendance simply because the traffic isn't worth it.
  5. The California Master plan hopes to get the top 50% of high school graduates into higher education. CSU only is designed to accepted the top 33% and UC is designed to accept the top 12.5%.
  6. Calling SJSU's foreign student's Asian's is far too limiting a description of how international San Jose is. Fremont has the largest Afghani population outside of Afghanistan and there is a significant Eritrean/Ethiopian population in East San Jose. Of course there are Latinos and East Asians because you are in the Western United States (of course gringos and smaller number of gueros), but its hardly the case that SJSU's students have a predominant nationality. Marc Spears, the reporter for ESPN's undefeated, was a SJSU basketball player and is probably SJSU's most prominent alumnus. He has said he's no longer attending Raider games but will go to Spartan games next fall. He isn't the only one who feels that way. I think there will be a resurgence of SJSU interest due to the Raiders leaving and it becoming easier for fans to get to SJSU games. In a general way, the western peninsula of the bay area is more affluent and has kids who don't aspire to attend Cal State Universities (yes, elitists). The east bay is much more than just Berkeley and is generally just as international as SJSU's student body. Antioch, Fairfield, Tracy and Vacaville are all considered "east bay" due to being along the delta but they are very far from San Jose if you don't have a car. Overall, SJSU's students are from the South Bay and East Bay and are among the first generation in their family to attend college at a high rate. Kids who aren't rich and aren't up to no good aren't that likely to have a car if they are from the bay area and admitted to SJSU. BART to downtown San Jose will really improve student access to SJSU and to the home town family and friends of many more SJSU football players. Hopefully a combination of disaffected Raider fans who need to tailgate in a way that you just CAN'T in Berkeley, more students BARTing to and from the games, and hardcore football fans within the bay area (if they are here, they live in Antioch or Vallejo more likely than in Foster City). 2026 is a long way off in some ways, but not that far away in the future. Internship opportunities are really the huge advantage of being a student at a bay area university. It's a lot easier to get your foot in the door and that is really the only thing someone needs to demonstrate that they have the required skill in many tech industry jobs. SJSU is a great place to try to get your foot in the door at the places you want to work in Silicon Valley.
  7. Interesting thread. I agree that no one should get super high horsed about these ranking because they are flawed. My concern is that USNWR sort of reverse engineered their rankings. They knew they wanted to put Ivy League on top and then figured out which metrics more or less get them to the list they want. The methodology favors private universities because the people who designed the test want private universities at the top of their rankings. Yes, there are many ways public and private universities can be compared and USNWR does that, but they heavily discount assets that public universities have because private universities have no comparison. I put more stock in their ranking that exclude private universities. USNWR has offered this way to sort and I think it's really the only way to really look at universities who play FBS football. If you eliminate the private universities from USNWR, then you get a much more reasonable list that reflects what most people can afford; SDSU is the highest ranked CSU and its slightly above UC Merced (lowest UC). I think most people would see attending SDSU as an undergrad as better than UC Merced by a much greater margin than USNWR does. It is hugely misleading to conflate granting PhDs and research funding. The two are completely distinct problems. Yes, I agree that there are too many PhDs, especially in non STEM fields and that you probably aren't helping anyone by letting them go into significant debt to get a PhD which is very unlikely to actually qualify them for the job the are seeking (i.e. become a university professor). SDSU, or any other Cal State University is not limited by the California Higher Education Master Plan in the ability to obtain research dollars and certainly some types of research need lots of cheap graduate student labor more than others. Post doctoral research is also very, very common and SDSU would have every opportunity to hire Post Docs for research labs. One more thought about the UC system versus the CSU system: per pupil spending. On a per pupil basis, the out of state cost of attendance is fairly close to what the total budget of the university is on a per pupil basis. The California LAO estimates that UC per pupil spenind was about $25,000 in 2015 while CSU was 15,000 Each Cal State campus is funded, on a per pupil basis, at an amount that meets or exceeds the "flagships" of most other states. For example, Ohio State is funded at a $5,000 per pupil level. The take away - Cal State are funded much better than most FBS Power 5 schools on a per pupil basis. Only Wyoming is funded at a level comparable to CSU in the MW (although Air Force clearly has plenty of funds but is supported federally and not at the state level directly). I think that it ultimately speaks highly of the MW that the universities aren't glorified pro teams like many FBS programs have, although some posters on this board might prefer more tax dollars for athletics at their particular school.
  8. Working hard to climb to the top of the heap of the trolls. I thought there was an intelligent post about the fact that the new president of SDSU is not going to last long if the direction of the athletic department is against SJSU and Fresno State. Perhaps the long standing current SDSU president could get away with bucking the chancellor but there is no way a new chancellor who needs money for a football stadium is going to fight with the other university president's who also want money for better football facilities. That is not how the game is played. If the CSU chancellor was certain that the SDSU president was spending significant time working to sabotage/undermine other campuses that president won't continue in that position. SDSU needs an invite from the Big 12 and hopefully they can build a stadium that would make that possible. If not, they have to get along with everyone in the CSU system and going independent is a distinct middle finger to the rest of the university system. A new university president isn't doing that. CSU presidents also don't seem to last long recently (e.g. SJSU). BYU is a private university so going independent is feasible. In this day and age, private universities can justify this much more easily than a public university. Army was historically independent and that has continued but I don't think anyone think's Army's schedule is all that exciting and I doubt it would be possible to equal that schedule if you were independent. The conference is mutually beneficial. It's just sports.
  9. OK. Utah, definitely. BYU, probably.
  10. The California State System doesn't grant that much independence. You can't go to your boss and say "the two other people who have the most similar job to me run institutions that we don't want to be associated with." It looks terrible and certainly isn't getting a new stadium built (which the other two institutions have). The CSU system is run by a Chancellor. There is a autonomy within the system but you need to work with these other universities first and foremost and an administration that was fighting with the other administrations is gone. You don't pick fights within this group. I believe this is a sports talk topic on local am radio in San diego. I'm sorry this station doesn't have the intellectual honesty to explain how the world of university administrators work.
  11. I know the collective wisdom is that Craig Thompson did something wrong, but I still have yet to learn what specifically that was. I would say that the MW should have invited Boise State earlier but the WAC's ESPN deal was so lucrative ESPN wanted to continue it, in some way, when Boise joined the MW. History suggests that Utah or TCU were not in favor of an earlier membership, or perhaps BYU, because it was only after those schools left that Boise's admission was granted. Yes, the better half of the WAC followed and some suggest that wasn't ideal (not me). I don't think the WCC did anything wonderful beyond a tv deal with ESPN. The WCC schools, mostly originally Jesuit, appear to be of greater significance but are private universities with small enrollments. The MW should take from the Pac 12, and every other FBS conference, to have equal revenue sharing in the next TV deal with a national cable network. Of course if Regional sports networks get the rights then each school would probably vary more. The MW needs to drive the hardest bargain it can for Window 4 content and I think the Pac 12 is going to do exactly the same thing in 2024. Our tv situations are much more comparable (the pac 12 and MW) than the American with the MW with respect to Window 4. I think the Pac 12 is going to offer a tv package for national broadcasts to CBS, Fox, ABC and NBC just like the NFL does. While TV ratings decline overall, live sports get people to watch commercials and that is still going to be worth a fair amount in 2025.
  12. The Raiders will be leaving the Bay area. Many fans who tailgate at Raider games are east bay residents who aren't going to Cal, Stanford or Forty niner games. Raider fans are generally more diverse than forty niner fans in my experience and I would say that the same is true for SJSU vis a vis Cal and Stanford (especially with the harbaugh and walsh connections). The multi team football landscape of the bay area makes fans unlikely to switch. A fair number of Raider fans will attend a Cal or SJSU game and watch the Raiders at home on Sunday after the Raiders move to Las Vegas. BUT TAILGATERS GOTTA TAILGATE and Berkeley sucks for tailgating. It's entirely plausible that SJSU and SDSU will have comparable stadium situations in 2020 so the big disparity in attendance could go away in a few short years. San Jose State's biggest problem is making their North End Zone project happen. The continuity within their athletic department staff being maintained by promoting from within makes me maintain my optimism they'll eventually get there. Personally I think doing all the other parts of south campus first, along with that neighborhood's current bounce back as bay area real estate continues to increase in value/cost. Eventually I think they need to change their upper deck into boxes that don't look like empty seats but still shade the good seats near the field. The stands were built to block the late afternoon sun on the field which is a big problem at that site, but it's lead to a weird TV picture where there is one side that looks like a modern stadium but the other side is an earthwork. I encourage all SDSU partisan's to be wildly optimistic about Fresno and San Jose State because there is no California State University Chancellor who would tolerate a SDSU administration that even remotely wanted to go independent and sabotage SJSU and Fresno. That train isn't boarding, let alone leaving the station before the person who is actually in charge fires the conductor and the crew. The most important way for SDSU to show its dominance is really based on the impacted status of the programs. I would note that Fresno, Fullerton, Long Beach, San Diego, San Jose and Cal Poly SLO are the campuses that are always completely impacted. This clearly shows there is a two tier CSU system among those schools that people with options want to attend and those they do not want to attend. The Big West and the MW are the schools within that tier - Northridge is the major exception. Clearly the MW schools are the top tier among the top tier of Cal State University campuses. Frankly I would love to see a whole lot more humility about how good SDSU has it rather than angst about how terrible things are.
  13. Sacramento State would be in the Big West if they had a decent basketball arena. The football stadium was upgraded for the Canadian Football League expansion in the late 1990s and would be perfectly fine for 20,000 fans. "The Hive" seats 1500. It's also ancient. Alumni of Sacramento state have got to make it happen.
  14. The Pac 12 network was a spin off of Comcast Sports Bay area - to a large degree. I think that Cal and Stanford are pre-eminent in the Pac 12 and that its why. the University of California Office of the President is in the bay area so UCLA is voting to put the network there rather than LA. UCOP is very powerful. Plus, the pac 12 network started up during the post recession period so they didn't pay ridiculous office space prices. It was good timing for them.
  15. San Francisco is the place to go over the top so this location will be advantageous in 2024-25. I hope we go over the top with a sub fee and only do national broadcasts. No ESPN, no FS1, no friday or saturday night "Window 4" unless it's a national broadcast.