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  1. I don't know. There is always chatter about Montana and MSU and the state has half the population of another small state in NM, 2.1M vs 1.1M. If the UTEP/NMSU combo is unrealistic for expansion, then there should never be any discussion on the Montanas or NDSU. But there always is and it is a message board. Bozeman has population of 54k. That is tiny, again as a realistic expansion option. I'm sure it's a cool place to visit. I have spent time up in Missoula. Las Cruces is small as well, but it still has 110k and is a 30 minute drive from EP at 680k. UTEP and NMSU stadiums are about 45 minutes apart. If AAC schools are off the table, there aren't a lot of options out west. Never heard of something called Scott City CC, but everyone that follows the MWC and G5 sports out west knows NMSU and UTEP.
  2. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.... Also that would be a dream scenario for OSU and WSU. I still don't see a best of rest happening when the dust settles. I think all 4 power conference survive long term.
  3. You said MWC was better in all sports. The 2 biggest are football and basketball, and in one of those 2 the Sun Belt ranked higher. Even if the MWC had ranked higher, they are close enough in on the field performance top to bottom that it isn't worth arguing. But objectively, per rankings that were shown which are used in many a thread on this forum, they were better. If you want to change the argument to be about revenue, expenditures, attendance, or whatever metric, that is a different discussion. But Sun Belt football is every bit as legit as MWC... at the G5 level.
  4. If MWC is going into the state of Texas, UTEP would be most realistic. UTSA and UNT aren't leaving the AAC, but for arguments sake if they were available, i would think UTSA would be the top target. I don't see AAC poaching MWC or vice versa, so get OSU and WSU and call it a day - until the big boys start moving schools around again... I would go NMSU in combination with UTEP before i would ever touch Texas State.
  5. My point was the real gap is P4 vs G5, not whether the MWC or Sun Belt or AAC is slightly better than the other in any given year moving forward. For all intents and purposes, the top few teams in the G5 conference can all beat each other. Line them up against the top half or even third of P4 conferences and the difference is night and day for a majority of those games. If the Sun Belt was ranked higher than MWC last year, great. Same if MWC was ranked higher. I am sure the difference is minimal. Both are solid G5 conferences. Give NIL and instant transfers a few more years and i think a new league will be formed for power teams for football.
  6. I would bet UTEP is on a short list. I don't think MWC can pull any AAC schools.
  7. It wasn't a fluke year. Sun Belt has been getting better and better for years and the ranking shows it. So no, the MWC is not the top G5 in all sports. And it doesn't matter anyway, because there is a Grand Canyon size gap between P4 and G5 and it is only growing. The good news is there are more than 60 schools at the G5 level so no matter what happens with expansion or conference realignment, that next level below P4 will have plenty of competition. Better than being FCS. P4>>>>G5>>FCS>>everyone else playing sports at the college level.
  8. My guess is they take someone else, but if they want Pitino then ACC dollars will be tough to beat. Just like UW.
  9. I guess i don't understand why they are out of time. I think they wait it out for a year and see if anything else shakes out of realignment, like the ACC collapsing. And don't forget they have the 2 year scheduling agreement with the MWC for football. Not saying the merger isn't going to happen, i just don't think it will happen anywhere close to a 30 day window. My guess is sometime in 2025.
  10. I'll bite. What is the logic for the next 30 days, or even the next 90 days?? Heck, i'll give you 6 months. Just curious why the short timeline.
  11. I thought some of the teams joined because there was talk of WAC starting football again - eventually. Either way, the WAC will continue to survive. I wonder who would be on their list for possible candidates moving forward.
  12. Yes, that's the example i responded to. He said if UNLV beats UNM, meaning championship game.
  13. No way 7 teams go. If UNLV knocks off UNM in your scenario, that takes out UNM and/or CSU. Also, if UNLV got the autobid, then 4 more teams with 10 losses each would have to get an invite to get to 7. That's a tall order, even considering NET rankings. I'm really curious to see how it shakes out. I think it will be 5 at the end of the day.
  14. UConn has won 5 national championships, starting in 1999. They play in the Big East. They aren't remotely close to being a mid major.
  15. Something tells me OSU and WSU, who have been playing the likes of Washington, UCLA, USC, and Oregon, won't be threatened into agreeing to anything by a possible addition of Cal Davis and Texas State to the MWC. I think you are left waiting at least a year for anything more than the current scheduling agreement in football. And it may be a tiny chance, but the best of the rest option is still out there, which would split the MWC in two. Stranger things have happened - like the P12 collapsing overnight. I still think everything is pointing to WSU and OSU joining MWC for all sports in 2026 - unless of course the ACC schools find a way around the GOR. If the ACC schools can be poached short term, then it's game on and we'll see all sort of changes. I don't see that happening either, but when big money is involved you never know. Cal Davis and Montana State? Alrighty...
  16. If it's worth $2B with 65 teams, what makes you think people will get bored with 72 or 76 teams? I don't even see the difference. One of top 20 teams or so, most likely top 10, will win it every year, but the pool that can make the sweet sixteen or final eight is much larger. That drives excitement at those schools. Is expansion purely about greed and making even more money? Yes it is. But i don't think it's going to turn off people. In fact, it will probably make it even more popular.
  17. I don't know. If the biggest schools in the biggest markets out west couldn't keep a power conference together, i have a very hard time seeing any of the G5 conferences, including MWC, making a cut if and when a separation happens. There are 135 FBS schools, roughly split down the middle now between P4 and G5. My guess is the numbers stay the same when a new semi-pro conference is formed. Heck, it might even be in the 40s or 50s if the big boys want to get really greedy. And the rest of us will be just fine at the next level. But markets like Reno, Logan, Pullman, Corvallis, Laramie? I guess i just don't see it. Time will tell. For now, all G5 conferences have at least one ticket in the new playoff format, so that's good news. And being in a G5 conference does have benefits, as UMass realized. There are also teams still trying to make the leap from FCS to FBS like Delaware in 2025. But i don't see the MWC, or AAC for that matter, breaking away in any meaningful way from the rest of G5 when it comes to football. I look at that as glass half full. The more G5 teams out there, the better. I agree that adding WSU and OSU will be big for the MWC. A stable MWC is good for all G5 as it prevents more musical chairs at this level. Selfishly i really don't want to see some best of the rest send teams scrambling again.
  18. We are all fighting for peanuts compared to the P4 when it comes to college football. But it beats being FCS. The pecking order hasn't changed in terms of overall talent, attendance, revenue, etc. P4>>G5>>FCS. With the latest realignments and media deals, combined with NIL and instant transfer and play, the P4 is just pulling away faster in my opinion. I still see a split coming sooner rather than later at the FBS level, lead by BiG/SEC. The current model just doesn't look sustainable. But who knows.
  19. I still don't see them being at the top of the list even if the MWC ever ends up having to rebuild.
  20. No one is poaching the SEC or BiG. Both conferences will probably absorb some of the ACC teams in the future.
  21. UNM visiting Auburn the year after the massive NMSU upset is probably not a good thing... I am sure Freeze would love nothing more than to run up the score if given the chance.
  22. And Liberty took the CUSA invite and played in the Fiesta Bowl this year. But maybe that MWC invite is in the cards down the road.... Or maybe not. If NDSU had a formal invite and not just a conversation with CUSA, they should have taken it and ran with it - assuming they really want to move up to FBS of course. NMSU in its first year in CUSA made it to the championship game, a second bowl game in a row and third in 7 seasons, and knocked off Auburn the week before they gave up a last second TD pass to lose to playoff bound Alabama. You never know what can happen, but if the school is serious they need to make the jump to FBS already. The only hope for NDSU getting a MWC invite is a best of the rest formed by WSU and OSU, resulting in multiple schools leaving. What are the odds of that? I'd say less than 5%, and that's being generous. UMass is moving to the MAC. Delaware is joining CUSA in 2025. Is NDSU going to just keep waiting for something that may never happen?
  23. Good move for UMass football. Delaware is joining CUSA. UConn football probably stays indy with their basketball in Big East.
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