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Uconn has more NCCA Championships than Duke!
alum93 replied to Gonzagafan2021's topic in MWC Sports Forum
I would include Gonzaga in any top 20 list of programs based off their quarter century run. 9 straight sweet sixteens is amazing, blueblood or not. All their resume is missing is winning the final game of the season, but they have the final four, eight, and sweet sixteen runs to prove they are a powerhouse. UConn winning 6 championships is a whole other level of performance. That is an incredible stat. -
Uconn has more NCCA Championships than Duke!
alum93 replied to Gonzagafan2021's topic in MWC Sports Forum
106-67 is a beatdown and bad look normally seen with completely overmatched 15/16 seeds, especially considering it happened against a team that stormed the court for the regular season championship from a conference that got a record 6 bids. USU picked a bad night to have an off game against a top seed. -
Nolan Richardson won a national title at Arkansas. No reason Calipari can't do the same. And as always, the money that runs thru the SEC is absolutely insane... $8M a year to coach college basketball.
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I like the idea of them breaking away better. Take the top 40-60 schools and form a new FBS super league. Take the current G5, add the 20 schools that don't make the cut, and retain what is currently know as FBS. There really is nothing in common now between the BiG/SEC and MWC,, specifically when it comes to football. Attendance, revenue, salaries, athletic budgets, they live in another world. And it still isn't enough as they try and come up with even more ways to leave the G5 behind. The greed is unreal. So let them take the ball, football to be clear, and have their own league. It won't change a thing with G5 out west. Games and rivalries will still be fun.
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No matter how low a bar i set for Trump, his response is always hold my beer or 12 diet cokes. Well done, panson, well done.
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Yes, the question isn't how close Albq and EP are. They are very similar in population, unless of course you count Juarez which is enormous. But they are similar overall. Both are good sized cities, especially out west where there are a lot of states which simply don't have a lot of population. What isn't remotely close is Logan, which was my original response.
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UConn in its past 32 nonconference games: 30-2 Losses: • Kansas • New Mexico State
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And EP is bigger than Albq, yes. Just depends on where you want to draw the line, but city population per Google EP is 677k anbd Albq is 561k, or 110k bigger there. But if you want to talk metro and just draw a bigger circle, that is fine. Point is both are still decent size cities and someone saying EP isn't growing fast enough as a reason they shouldn't be picked while simultaneously showing numbers for a town of 54k in Logan and surrounding area doesn't make for a good argument. There are certainly good reasons to discuss and debate expansion regarding UTEP and EP, but population growth isn't one of them. I think UTEP and NMSU will both stay in CUSA for the foreseeable future and i am good with that. If musical chairs start again with the big boys like last year, which i don't see happening, then so be it.
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Even more reason to go UTEP over any school in a tiny market. UTEP in a down year that they end up firing the coach still averaged nearly 20k. Why go to a small market if the team gets exactly 5k more per game. You have a 55k football stadium that will draw a heck of a lot more for big games and just a better market overall. But i agree that there isn't any reason for MWC, or AAC/Sun Belt/MAC, to expand. The money just isn't there to justify for any of the G5 conferences. CUSA still needs to add numbers to get to 12, but they will be at 10 next year and that works for now. If anything, G5 conferences in general just need to be as stable as possible and be ready when the big boys start a new football conference sometime down the line. All the MWC needs to do at this point is bring WSU and OSU in under whatever name people want to call it. 16 teams is too many considering who is realistically available. But it certainly won't surprise me either if they do give it a shot.
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EP isn't growing? It's bigger than Albq, Ft. Collins, Fresno, Logan, Laramie. The metro area has more people than the entire states of Montana and Wyoming. How much bigger does it need to be for it to be MWC worthy. Logan, the town your school is located in, has 54k people. EP has 680k in city limits alone. And i have no skin in the game since i didn't go to UTEP, but the Sun Bowl is an awesome college stadium, especially if you are comparing it to G5 schools.
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I don't know. There is always chatter about Montana and MSU and the state has half the population of another small state in NM, 2.1M vs 1.1M. If the UTEP/NMSU combo is unrealistic for expansion, then there should never be any discussion on the Montanas or NDSU. But there always is and it is a message board. Bozeman has population of 54k. That is tiny, again as a realistic expansion option. I'm sure it's a cool place to visit. I have spent time up in Missoula. Las Cruces is small as well, but it still has 110k and is a 30 minute drive from EP at 680k. UTEP and NMSU stadiums are about 45 minutes apart. If AAC schools are off the table, there aren't a lot of options out west. Never heard of something called Scott City CC, but everyone that follows the MWC and G5 sports out west knows NMSU and UTEP.
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Not impossible, but highly unlikely.... Also that would be a dream scenario for OSU and WSU. I still don't see a best of rest happening when the dust settles. I think all 4 power conference survive long term.
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You said MWC was better in all sports. The 2 biggest are football and basketball, and in one of those 2 the Sun Belt ranked higher. Even if the MWC had ranked higher, they are close enough in on the field performance top to bottom that it isn't worth arguing. But objectively, per rankings that were shown which are used in many a thread on this forum, they were better. If you want to change the argument to be about revenue, expenditures, attendance, or whatever metric, that is a different discussion. But Sun Belt football is every bit as legit as MWC... at the G5 level.
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If MWC is going into the state of Texas, UTEP would be most realistic. UTSA and UNT aren't leaving the AAC, but for arguments sake if they were available, i would think UTSA would be the top target. I don't see AAC poaching MWC or vice versa, so get OSU and WSU and call it a day - until the big boys start moving schools around again... I would go NMSU in combination with UTEP before i would ever touch Texas State.
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My point was the real gap is P4 vs G5, not whether the MWC or Sun Belt or AAC is slightly better than the other in any given year moving forward. For all intents and purposes, the top few teams in the G5 conference can all beat each other. Line them up against the top half or even third of P4 conferences and the difference is night and day for a majority of those games. If the Sun Belt was ranked higher than MWC last year, great. Same if MWC was ranked higher. I am sure the difference is minimal. Both are solid G5 conferences. Give NIL and instant transfers a few more years and i think a new league will be formed for power teams for football.